July 4, 2012

I want to share with you something that Verizon had deleted days after it was posted in the Boston Globe. See how nasty Verizon really is. The leaders at the top of Verizon came from the Boston / New England area. This is why the company still runs and excepts hostile work environments.

Several managers were terminated in Boston Metro area of Verizon. Each hour I would cut at paste the comments knowing Verizon would call offer more advertising money to the paper, if they remove the comments. Glad I kept them.

Read and enjoy every comment, as the names of the unethical managers that I have spoken about for so long, are here as well.

Neal W. Dias
Fightingfor7years@hotmail.com

BUSINESS NEWS UPDATES
UPDATED
Thursday, 3:36 PM
From the Boston Globe Business Team
14 Verizon managers fired for falsifying work reports
November 17, 2008 04:53 PM Email| Comments (251)| Text size – +
Verizon Communications Inc., the region’s largest telephone company, said it fired 14 managers in the Boston area about two weeks ago for “falsifying company reports” that track the hours employees work.
Verizon spokesman Phil Santoro said the misconduct did not affect customers, but violated the company’s code of conduct.
Separately, Verizon recently said it was cutting 2,700 management-level jobs nationwide, about 1 percent of its total workforce, including an unspecified number in Massachusetts, where it has about 13,000 employees.
(By Todd Wallack, Globe staff)
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251 COMMENTS SO FAR…

1.
‘Tis a good move by Verizon. It’s necessary to show both the Verizon employees and the Verizon customers that this type of fraud will not be tolerated.
Posted by Eddie Goldstein November 17, 08 06:25 PM

2. How convenient that after some close personal friends of Mr. Joe Buccierelli (Vice President – New England) were laid off 2 weeks ago, Joe fires 14 managers and then gives their positions to his buddies. 11 of the 14 fired were First Level Managers (Bottom of the Totem Pole). They were fired for doing what they were TOLD to do just as the other 43 First Level Managers do EVERY day in New England. If they want to get rid of the corruption in Verizon, why don’t they start at the top. Why don’t they take a look at James Dacey, the only first level in the group who WASN’T fired due to the fact that he sold his soul, lied and made false allegations in order to save his OWN job….so Eddie, why don’t hold off on deciding what’s a “Good Move” until you know the WHOLE story. This will not help Verizon in an way, shape or form….Shame on Them.

Posted by 1 of the 11 Wrongfully Terminated November 17, 08 08:08 PM

3. Thanks, for that, Wrongfully Terminated.
When you state that one “sells their soul,” you’re not entirely off the mark. What is one who gains the world and loses their own soul?
Posted by Anonymous November 17, 08 08:26 PM

4. How come there aren’t any articles about all the wrongful terminations and suspensions of union employees at the Woburn garage? I feel no sympathy for any manager at Verizon who has lost their job. Most first levels were union employees at one time with job protection. When they left the union they gave all that up!
Posted by Anonymous November 17, 08 09:56 PM

5. There is a saying that the fish rots from the head. If the upper Management really believes that they are restoring confidence by firing these Managers and not the true responsible parties, Joe Buccierelli (local VP and hatchet man) and Joe Beasely (area manager thanks to daddy) they are sorely mistaken. This unjust action just reaffirms that the good old boy network is alive and well at Verizon. It is who you know period. These Managers are just as much victims as are the terminated Union employees of this short sighted, mean spirited dinosaur known as Joe the butcher.
Posted by Distgusted November 17, 08 10:37 PM

6. Bucciarelli is at it again. I believe this is the reason he was shipped out of New York. He underlings are corrupt as well as himself , so when it hits the fan he blames the 1st levels. It is time that the Bucciarelli reign of terror comes to an end. Seidenberg, Mudge, Strigl should break ties with Bucciarelli and his Napoleon tactics. First level managers are through. As a 1st level I will no longer discipline anyone. Why? No one appreciates what we do. The union runs the company anyway?
Posted by Bob Johnson November 18, 08 08:56 AM

7. this just shows the sad state of affairs that the management team is in at verizon. they have cut their health care, their pay, their overtime, all the while loading up these managers with more technicians and more responsibility, and then rule with them with fear. the even more sad part is that some of the managers that blew the whistle on this behavior were also punished. whats comical is the type of individuals that have recently been hired as verizon managers, they are typically uneducated and have never worked in the field that they are now managing, some were even fired as technicians and once rehired brought into management. what a joke! p.s. look what drinking the company punch got those 14 managers, im sure the rest left behind are just gonna sit in their little cubicles and do the bare minimum, great job guys!
Posted by sad at verizon November 18, 08 10:51 AM

8. great job joe you should fire a few more
Posted by union employee November 18, 08 12:26 PM

9. GET THE FIOS FORMAN NEXT ……THEY LIE CHEAT AND TREAT PEOPLE LIKE ANIMALS…..I AM SURE WALL STREET WOULD LOVE TO SEE ALL THE TIMESHEEET CHEATING THEY DO TO MAKE THE NUMBERS LOOK BETTER FOR THE INVESTERS….FIRE JOE THE HATCHET MAN
Posted by COPPER FORMAN November 18, 08 01:45 PM

10. Boston??..this could have easily been the Bronx. Last month half the first level managers were let go, but the good old boy network circled the wagons and saved the ring-bearers..First level managers throughout Vz are being abused by a company that continues to degrade their benefits while increasing their responsibilities. Who would want this job? Vz insults their managers by taking away benefits and telling them that their new benefits are still ‘better than the industry’. The latest insult is changing vacations to an accural system. Was this implemented so that they won’t have to pay vacation time when they RIF us?? Shame on Vz that they continue to let go of managers when their bottom line is MUCH better than Ford, GM or any of the banks that are in trouble..Funny how the senior leadership that allowed the union to dominate them all these years and did ‘personal’ favors for them everytime first level managers tried to discipline one of the lousy union employees never seem to lose their jobs. Shame on you Verizon… shame on you…
Posted by Angry employee November 18, 08 01:47 PM

11. Boston??..this could have easily been the Bronx. Last month half the first level managers were let go, but the good old boy network circled the wagons and saved the ring-bearers..First level managers throughout Vz are being abused by a company that continues to degrade their benefits while increasing their responsibilities. Who would want this job? Vz insults their managers by taking away benefits and telling them that their new benefits are still ‘better than the industry’. The latest insult is changing vacations to an accural system. Was this implemented so that they won’t have to pay vacation time when they RIF us?? Shame on Vz that they continue to let go of managers when their bottom line is MUCH better than Ford, GM or any of the banks that are in trouble..Funny how the senior leadership that allowed the union to dominate them all these years and did ‘personal’ favors for them everytime first level managers tried to discipline one of the lousy union employees never seem to lose their jobs. Shame on you Verizon… shame on you…
Posted by Angry employee November 18, 08 01:48 PM

12. Just another lame duck excuse to cut the payroll (at the mangers expense). I agree with Copper Foreman…they all do it.
Lets see, they eliminated management pensions, invoke RIFs every other quarter, charge for 401k managing while limiting investment funds, granted worthless stock options, revamped vacation for 2009 with earned time….the BS just goes on. You see 2700 jobs eliminated nationwide…they don’t tell you they just added 3000 offshore in the last few years. Glad I’m retired!!!
Posted by retired and glad to get out November 18, 08 02:04 PM

13. Falsifying time sheets is an everyday occurance demanded by upper mgmt ,its called “making their numbers”. If they werent fired for this it would have been the rif. Verizon is cutting cost everywhere. I thank God and my Union CWA1103 that I still have a job.
Posted by 1103 chief steward November 18, 08 03:23 PM

14. I am a union employee of Verizon, first, let me point out to angry employee, that we are not lousy. Union employees are the ones that do the work. We are the ones that fix the networks, apologize to the customers, interface with the public. We are the voice of Verizon. Most of you are right, RIFS, limited 401k funds to invest in, worthless stock options, vacation accrual, NO pension, that is what we face every few years, unlike you, we banded together in brotherhood and bargain as a unit. Management, goes at it alone, the choice you made was yours. All of this warms my heart, Joe Bucceirelli, for years has been a hatchet man, and all the first liners did his bidding. We were not the ones caught cheating, we were the ones doing the work, while you cut each others throats. Enjoy the unemployment line, I hope the scabs and rats follow you everywhere you go.
Posted by Hang Tough November 18, 08 03:30 PM

15. copper forman, you should be more specific— like the cheating that the fios foreman (j.d.) did in the woburn garage when he was cross charging fios time to copper codes to meet his G.AT.B. rate and look like a super star. funny how security covered that one up even when they were given indisputable proof of the cheating and then said the union made it up. the upper mgt & security in verizon is a giant joke, who are going to run this company into the ground! where is my union card????
Posted by scared & angry all at the same time@vz November 18, 08 03:45 PM

16. WHY COULDN’T THE BOSTON POLICE GET LEADERSHIP LIKE THAT
Posted by CORB1111 November 18, 08 03:53 PM

17. I thought Verizon Management was salaried? If they are salaried, why would they fill out a timesheet? I was salaried and worked for Alltel-Windstream. We were told approximately 10 years ago that we no longer had to fill out a timesheet. Is this just a management requirement with Verizon?
Posted by Mike November 18, 08 04:07 PM

18. With all the allegations being levied concerning conditions within Verizon that are rife with corruption, scandal and political rancor – perhaps the climate is right to take the rose-shaded glasses of the 1950’s off and really strip away the underpinnings of why the Company and the Union need to be constantly at each other’s throats.
Is the protective bargaining corporate culture really necessary anymore?
Using General Motors as the classic case study, an argument can be made that a company so burdened by the weight of supporting it’s own legacy employees (given the quality of support expected by the Union) alone is enough to cripple it’s chances to thrive in a competitive environment. Comparisons are unavoidable – and the image is undeniable – a swimmer trying in vain to keep it’s head above-water due to the rising tide of competition and an aging infrastructure (Verizon) is required to stay afloat, despite wearing a life-preserver (union) made of steel, created through years of welding more and more layers of unilaterally-added weight.
Verizon utilizes a poor business model – especially considering the “skills” needed to perform the Union functions are barely above that of high-functioning morons. (Just how “valuable” are job skills that can be taught in a three-week training class?) Let’s be realistic – while a good wage can be had within a five-year period, (provided overtime is available), life’s movers and shakers just aren’t applying for work at Verizon…too often it’s the career of second choice – “i had to make my child-support payments, so i needed the work” type of job. Generations of 30-pack buying, John Mccain voting, do-the-bare-minimum-each-day employees, cannot redeem Verizon this time…it’s been fun – but today’s Verizon is a generation late…
Posted by Hawk November 18, 08 04:41 PM

19. The bottom line here is the fired first levels knew what they were doing was wrong and they continued to do so under the so called protection of the butcher , the raisin, and the rat. We were taught when we young if some told you to jump off a bridge dont do it. The first levels in question lied to security.Their morals are in the toilet bowl of society. Im glad they listened to the raisin and the rat. I know im getting paid thursday guys how about you.
Posted by the truth November 18, 08 04:46 PM

20. With all the allegations being levied concerning conditions within Verizon that are rife with corruption, scandal and political rancor – perhaps the climate is right to take the rose-shaded glasses of the 1950’s off and really strip away the underpinnings of why the Company and the Union need to be constantly at each other’s throats.
Is the protective bargaining corporate culture really necessary anymore?
Using General Motors as the classic case study, an argument can be made that a company so burdened by the weight of supporting it’s own legacy employees (given the quality of support expected by the Union) alone is enough to cripple it’s chances to thrive in a competitive environment. Comparisons are unavoidable – and the image is undeniable – a swimmer trying in vain to keep it’s head above-water due to the rising tide of competition and an aging infrastructure (Verizon) is required to stay afloat, despite wearing a life-preserver (union) made of steel, created through years of welding more and more layers of unilaterally-added weight.
Verizon utilizes a poor business model – especially considering the “skills” needed to perform the Union functions are barely above that of high-functioning morons. (Just how “valuable” are job skills that can be taught in a three-week training class?) Let’s be realistic – while a good wage can be had within a five-year period, (provided overtime is available), life’s movers and shakers just aren’t applying for work at Verizon…too often it’s the career of second choice – “i had to make my child-support payments, so i needed the work” type of job. Generations of 30-pack buying, John Mccain voting, do-the-bare-minimum-each-day employees, cannot redeem Verizon this time…it’s been fun – but today’s Verizon is a generation late…
Posted by Hawk November 18, 08 04:46 PM

21. The root of the problem is that the CEO of Verizon, Ivan Siedenberg, continues to be paid a ridiculous amount of money ($26 million in 2007) even though the company he pretends to lead has lost a tremendous amount of market share and the stock price is half of what it used to be. He has raped and pillaged his own managers and has created an environment where the internal “results” are all that matters, not service delivery, not being competitive, not having the best and brightest motivated employees. As Mel Brooks once said, “It’s good to be the King!”
Posted by Hang Tough November 18, 08 06:05 PM

22. Hawk, I am not really sure what you are talking about….our valuable union trade skills are not taught in a three-week training class. We make a good wage, without the overtime, and we vote Democrat, because they support labor. Why don’t you sign on for a management position at Verizon? The company and the union are not constantly at each others throats, and we are not the bare minimum each day employees, those you will find at Walmart and Home Depot, Dunkin Donuts and Burger King, where they get paid to do the bare minimum. As far as GM is concerned, their management, not their union workers ran that company into the ground. Their management team is now begging the American people to bail them out, and not ALL of the American people, just us Joe 30 pack, DEMOCRATS, who bargain and work for a living wage. Did you not pay any attention to the presidential debates? Americans are the most productive employees in the world, we will be the ones paying. Take your simpleton views and your blame elsewhere, the working people of America have done our part.
Posted by Hang Tough November 18, 08 06:05 PM

23. Let me get this straight, managers were fired because they did what their boss and their bosses boss told them to do. Their boss and bosses boss got fired for telling them to charge time to a different code, and the managers got fired for doing what they were told to do. Please respond to this and let me know if I got it right because it does not make any sense to me.
Posted by Fitzy November 18, 08 06:14 PM

24. Dear hang tough….Yes you are wrong about about a lousy employee.There are penty out there.Im a union woker who everyday around me see the bear mininum done,fiber splices and copper splices looking like the playdough boy built it, fat rat dumbass workers wareing shirts about secrets and killing………spiting,slashing,keying cars,makeing threats about to there wives is makeing the union look bad.Its to bad.Yes there also alot of good union workers also who understand that the business is changeing and that fios is going to make us. Shennen,Delegro,Dacy and Freny,should be all FIRED…These are the guys are the main offenders of falseifing time sheets and i can not believe there not gone and some are gone that should not be.Wall Street got fake numbers and these 4 are also responsible, this paper (globe)should look into.Yes all four still have there jobs and yes they are still terrifing the work force and probably still falseifing company documents.If i were some of those managers who got fired and knew these 4 were still on the property my lawer would be getting the call the next day.Hopefuly that will happen,but while daddy is still around maybe there untouchable.
Posted by THE BULY November 18, 08 06:26 PM

25. Dear hang tough….Yes you are wrong about about a lousy employee.There are penty out there.Im a union woker who everyday around me see the bear mininum done,fiber splices and copper splices looking like the playdough boy built it, fat rat dumbass workers wareing shirts about secrets and killing………spiting,slashing,keying cars,makeing threats about to there wives is makeing the union look bad.Its to bad.Yes there also alot of good union workers also who understand that the business is changeing and that fios is going to make us. Shennen,Delegro,Dacy and Freny,should be all FIRED…These are the guys are the main offenders of falseifing time sheets and i can not believe there not gone and some are gone that should not be.Wall Street got fake numbers and these 4 are also responsible, this paper (globe)should look into.Yes all four still have there jobs and yes they are still terrifing the work force and probably still falseifing company documents.If i were some of those managers who got fired and knew these 4 were still on the property my lawer would be getting the call the next day.Hopefuly that will happen,but while daddy is still around maybe there untouchable.
Posted by THE BULLY November 18, 08 06:26 PM

26. Dear Bully, One of our bargained for benefits is an education, perhaps you should sign up for a basic English class. Are you on this site stating that you are a union employee and saying that your union brothers and sisters are fat,rat, dumbass workers? I know that in my local, we have mutual respect for the work that we do and we the union employees are the ones that are doing it. Every local that I have been in in this company considers people like you a rat. Stop your snitching! I suggest you take TP and join the dark side, it appears that is where you belong.
Posted by Hang Tough November 18, 08 06:48 PM

27. I have to say that I feel sorry anyone who loses their job for unjust reasons. Having said that I just wish that the Globe or any other Investigative Media Reporter would investigate some of the other unjust terminations made by Verizon. A good example to start with would be those that were fired by Verizon while out on Workers Compensation or Illness Benefits and charged with job abandonment. Verizon being a Self Insured Company has a company MetLife do their bidding for them. MetLife in the recent years has made the determination that employees that are out of work are OK to return to work ( determined by a so called independent doctor who has never even examined the employee) in almost all cases in direct conflict with the employees treating physician and or physicians and in other cases in direct conflict of Workers Compensation Judges Rulings. Then leaving the employees out of work for months and sometimes years before the issue is resolved if at all resolved. Verizon is a big enough company to make the common man starve and hold the employee and their family hostage until they cave to the wishes of the company in desperation. Those are the type of travesties that happen at Verizon on a daily basis and should be be addressed by the media and courts. Things like that should never be accepted along with the termination of any person for wrongful cause.
Posted by Injured at work then wrongfully terminated November 18, 08 07:12 PM

28. I was one of the 14. Fitzy you are right on with your understanding. An additional reason is that my boss was ineffective with his coaching so whatever we were taught and trained, not just ordered to do, was all wrong. Fire a cleanup hitter for being told to bunt and then striking out. For those of you that think we should have lost out jobs for simply doing our jobs….have some sympathy….
Posted by just doing what i was taught November 18, 08 07:27 PM

29. Here’s the problem people. The union runs the show. Lower management is scared of union issues but are also under the thumb of degree holding suits that make decisions about work they have never done nor can even come close to understanding.
The management force was made up of people who once were the splicers and repair persons. Now the management job is so bad, you cant get a single technician to take it. Now you hire college grads who can pass a test but cant tell the difference between a cable and a pole.
Quite the catch 22. You follow the rules and if you question, you are now a problem and you get the boot. If you follow the rules, when the empty suit VP orDistrict manager get wrapped up in some numbers game, you become the expendable one and you get the boot.
I worked both sides for many years. The union has one of the better deals in the country. They fought for it and I cant begrudge them for it. It is their right. However, so many take it for granted and abuse the opportunity. The lazy attitude is all over the union today and so many dont realize how good they have it. Without that union, most of the silly garbage they do would get them fired.
Regardless, this is another example of how this company destroys the very people they want to motivate the craft work force. Maybe someday they’ll actually ask the people in the trenches how it should be done.
Posted by POOR MANAGEMENT UP TOP November 18, 08 08:11 PM

30. I was one of the 14. Loyal and dedicated through and through. I do not believe I abused my position or conducted myself in an unethical manner. As managers we’re taught to “focus” on objectives and results; not “fudge” them. There may have been some mistakes or errors, but not intential falsification for monetary gain. Regardless, I’m no longer a manager of Verizon. I and the rest of the magnificent 14 will find new employment with a far better company than Verizon. A company that treats its people with respect. I for one will not settle for less. Perhaps I’ll make less money, but guaranteed I’ll sleep better at night without the constant threats and harassment from our own executives. Good Luck to those left behind. I’m sure you’re already feeling the heat and are overburdened. I do not feel embarassed or ashamed of anything I did while employeed there, I am howver embarassed and ashamed of the way we were treated. As for the Union, there are good eggs and bad eggs. When a bad egg is disciplined it’s not “always” the manager.
Posted by The magnificent 14 November 18, 08 08:28 PM

31. Come on people-your all adults, so start taking responsibility for your actions. If someone told you to jump off a bridge, are you gonna do that also? I don’t agree that all the players involved should have been fired, and yes there probably are more out there that should have been, but I guess time will tell that. As far as Verizon, yes mgmt has had a lot taken away from them, but so has every other major corporation, I am thankful and stressed everyday for my job as a manager, and no I am not one that was involved in this whole fiasco.
Posted by jkdsoe November 18, 08 08:33 PM

32. The Globe or the FCC should investigate the scrubbing of jobs. It is no wonder we have lost market share when msmt does this and the customer sits at home waiting for a tech that never comes.

33. Joe B ushered in this era of hate, intimidation and fear. Anyone reporting to him felt it and pushed it further down the line. Frank Toce (acting for so long it was embarrassing) started his mantra in 07 that first levels that didn’t make their numbers would be out of a job. What leadership! Wouldn’t you just run through a wall for a man like that? Sad what we were left with when the last of the actual ‘phone’ people left the business. Toce pushed the cx and dw process as much as he could and his seconds pushed it down to us. Not much of a choice is it? Do what might be wrong or lose your job. Think that weighed on people? Somebody stands up to the clowns and gets fired. His lawsuit starts turning over stones and low and behold Toce sends out the rules on cx and dw’s. Finally the first written explanation of what cx is really for. Nice. Cover your ass Frank and threaten the 1st levels again for doing what you started. Seems your ‘process’ was actually ‘cheating’. Luckily security got wind and did one of their classic investigations. And in classic Verizon fashion, people who told the truth are without jobs and people like Beasley, Marini and McPartland still pull a paycheck. Everyone, and I do mean everyone, knew Sisoian and Daley were cheats – they couldn’t have been more obvious. But how a couple of those other seconds are still on the property is beyond me. And anyone who can look at Beasley in the face without disgust is a better person than I. Wonder if Toce knows his buddy Jay turned on him with security. Think Beasley cares? Nope. The man has no soul. Bottom line is Toce started this and ruined the district. Absolutely destroyed it. He fired managers and techs (with Joe’s blessing), he pushed cheating to a new level (Joe should’ve caught it), he never, for one day, actually led his team and then the second things got hot, he bailed on them and blamed everyone but himself. Excellent choice Joe B. Way to go keeping this buffoon in place. I wonder what Wall Street will think when the extent of this is really known. Can’t wait til the auditors come and look at what Fios has done with their timesheets and cross charging. You think Core was bad?
Posted by Shoulda Gone Union November 18, 08 08:53 PM

34. This is absolutely beautiful, each of you look at this blog, like it is a brick wall on an abandoned school. Throwing your graffitti on the bricks without stepping up and taking ownership. First of all, to “HangTough”, nice name by the way, when was the last time any of you really “hung” from a pole? There might be one tech who uses spikes, and he lives on the Cape, or some remote place, such as, Great Barrington, but the rest of you who pass ladder safety, have to call for a bucket because you do not like to take the ladder off the truck or are too overweight to climb. Nevertheless, Hang Tough, you claim in “blog 14” that, “I am a union employee of Verizon, first, let me point out to angry employee, that we are not lousy. Union employees are the ones that do the work. We are the ones that fix the networks, apologize to the customers, interface with the public. We are the voice of Verizon. ” Guess what? It’s called doing your job! You do not do this on your own time, you get paid to do this. Next….you claim that education is one of your benefits.” Honestly, how many of your unionized employees really have gone back to school to finish and did something better with themselves? A very small percentage, and if you “bargained” for this benefit, then you got taken over the coals, because it’s a no brainer for the company to give you a benefit that none of you use. Finally, for now, until you volley back with some verbiage about some rah-rah unionized motto like, “will strike if provoked”, crap, which, in fact, you never had the balls to srike in the first place, none of you could afford it and if you did, I hope the educated people of Boston would realize that you are the highest paid wokers, I use this term loosely, in your fields, within the entire country, so the whole, whoa is me idiosyncracies that the company makes X amount of dollars money and we get nothing, is nothing but a misrepresentation of truth. You, and your members are just a cog in the wheel, we’ll call, Verizon. Listen, you are not the wheel, just a cog in it! Understand it, know your role, you signed up for this, as did the managers who got fired for cheating. They did it, they got caught and they got fired. End of story. Too Bad, So Sad
Posted by Too Bad, So Sad November 18, 08 08:53 PM

35. Who remembers the rush for Long Distance. Management scrambled to make 24 hour service commitments so that we could offer long distance. And in return we had to let in resellers. Well Long Distance was shit and resellers cut our profits. Line loss has affected stock prices, 401k’s are down. but did any Upper Mgmt pay the price for this very costly mistake? NOOO, Ivan just keeps raking it in. And everyone else is left scrambling. The Union is strong. They are the only ones who know that ultimately the customer is our boss.The mgmt is week and foolish. eating their own.Falsifying #’s to get their boss a bonus
Posted by W. Guthry November 18, 08 08:55 PM

36. Pension = GONE
Medical = $5K a year for a family
401K = Matched with VZ Stock. Toilet paper is worth more.
Vacation time = Cut
Overtime = What’s that?
Comp time = Come again?
FIOS = F****d In Our Sh***er
Posted by Bruins Fan 1968 November 18, 08 09:33 PM

37. W Guthry.
Union is strong but your members are growing ever weaker. 2011, your time is up. You’ll finally learn what it means to actually have to EARN a days wage.
If you know the customers are your boss, why don’t you swing through Roxbury and wake up the 15 guys that sleep half the morning in their vans and in full view of the “boss” customers. Nice to see you show your “bosses” how hard you work for a change.
Posted by Thats More Like It November 18, 08 09:39 PM

38. Wow – what a disgusting display- I hope all the smart asses making comments and putting people’s names on line have no skeletons in their closet. If you think security is done and all you union brothers are safe. Think again and be careful with how you sign your timesheet
Posted by 185 November 18, 08 09:45 PM

39. “That’s More Like It” was unable to access his porn for a few hours so now he is in a tizzy.
Posted by Celluza November 18, 08 09:53 PM
40. The whole thing started because Tony “the Rat” Sisoian was allowed to excessively and punitively suspended and terminated employees while he was cooking the books so he could go to the Booch and say his brand of discipline worked because his numbers improved.. he was a lying cheating scumbag and Verizon knew this and allowed it to continue… A big round of applause to the union and the workers for standing up to them… it was great that the Merrimack Valley garages and the union leaders stood up and fought the scumbags and picketed the garages every day and originated the Rat rallies for Sisoian because he was a rat… the rat got it in the end….. Toce got what he deserved as well, he condoned it and turned a blind eye on the workers… he managed numbers not people… the workforce in Massachusetts will NEVER forgive Verizon for allowing this to continue and they will continue to do a safe quality job and service the customers, but Verizon will NEVER get anything extra from anyone ever again….
Posted by The Rat Killers November 18, 08 09:54 PM

41. Next thing to come down the pike is going to be a class action lawsuit.Age discrimination.Ask any long term employee how they are treated…
Posted by just waiting November 18, 08 10:22 PM

42. Dear 185:
GOOD…I hope they DO continue to investigate…I hope they clearly see how John DiLiegro (who went to High School with Eric Sheehan) CHEATS every hour, every day and joins us in the ranks of the unemployed….I hope they see how EVERY first level in New England CHEATS…every day…NPW, 123E, Plant Tix, CX time, Etc…all condoned by the Butcher himself….in order to make it look like he was successful in New England after failing miserably in New York…time for him to go! He’s done his damage….Let Napoleon get on his horse and ride. I’m not sure I agree totally with Magnificent 14…there were probably some that cheated “above and beyond” and deserved to be fired….Roy and Tony absolutely….Frank: don’t think he deserves the rap he’s getting. He tried to stop this and 2 of the AOM’s just wouldn’t let it go….better to cheat than fail….most of the 11 First Levels…some were first year field managers who didn’t know better….some did as they were told….a couple may have abused the situation….it’s no matter as we all know this went on everywhere, every day and it still goes on in FiOS…if they think Copper/Core was bad…try Eric Sheehan’s group…it’ll make the Wall St. Journal with how THEY cheat….but no worries right…Daddy’s the head of security so they’ll find “no evidence” of wrongdoing….even if one of DiLiegro’s guys goes out on a triple play, can’t finish, closes out the voice line for 2 hours, takes 6 hours NPW and the next guy closes out the data and video order….Again, we did as we were told. I was a GOOD manager. I’m still a GOOD person. Bucc told everyone on the conference call at the end of day on Friday the 7th that all they get to leave with at the end of the day is their reputation…you know what…I’m good leaving with mine….no issues between management and union…I got along fine with my guys…and they got along with me… I believe in ruling by respect not fear and I have NO regrets. I’d wish Mr. Dacey to die of testicular cancer but since he obviously doesn’t have a pair, that won’t happen ****Steve Feeney and Bill Wise as well*** I’ll take my reputation, my education (Yes Mr. Too Bad, So Sad, I went at night and they paid to get me my MBA) and move on with my life. I’ll sleep well at night knowing how much I got from Verizon (Wealth, Travel, Education) and I’ll utilize them elsewhere. Hopefully Verizon eventually fails miserably and gets bought out by another company and EVERYONE loses thier coveted positions and finds out what it’s really like to have to WORK for a living….

Posted by Still Wrongfully Terminated November 18, 08 10:26 PM

43. T.S.-
Did you qualify for unemployment benefits??
Most likely not….. Perhaps you can appeal and sit in that room again.
Posted by karma’s a bitch November 18, 08 10:29 PM

44. How come no one has mentioned the bald headed dick.He resides at locust street.Under a desk where he belongs
Posted by just waiting November 18, 08 10:33 PM

45. How come no one has mentioned the bald headed dick.He resides at locust street.Under a desk where he belongs
Posted by just waiting November 18, 08 10:37 PM

46. I wonder why Joe “The Fuerher” didn’t hunker down in his own bunker while “his Berlin” was going up in flames……………….sound familiar “I vas only following orders!”
Posted by Retired & grateful to be so! November 18, 08 10:47 PM

47. … fitzy (note 23) got it right ..bosses telling bosses telling bosses what to do..bottom line..no cheating here , just the bottom following directives on what they assume is correct – same as the techs do…. and thats easy to manupilutate when you take someone ( 1st level) overload them with so much paperwork administrative garbage that they cant check every piece of paper that crosses their desk or do what they are supposed to do- which is coach their teams to work together , safely & honestly…. if they did everything “by the book” techs would still be in the garage at noon doing safety checks on their tools & vehicles ..how would the stockholders like that?
Posted by more of the same November 18, 08 11:02 PM

48. … fitzy (note 23) got it right ..bosses telling bosses telling bosses what to do..bottom line..no cheating here , just the bottom following directives on what they assume is correct – same as the techs do…. and thats easy to manupilutate when you take someone ( 1st level) overload them with so much paperwork administrative garbage that they cant check every piece of paper that crosses their desk or do what they are supposed to do- which is coach their teams to work together , safely & honestly…. if they did everything “by the book” techs would still be in the garage at noon doing safety checks on their tools & vehicles ..how would the stockholders like that?
Posted by more of the same November 18, 08 11:03 PM

49. I work for Comcast and I don’t want my company to be like this. Sure we have problems too, but what I’m reading sounds like pure turmoil. We are reorganizing 5 regions into two in New England, so management is being consolidated. Comcast has stated they will try to find affected employees other positions. I don’t know but we just don’t have the venomous work environment being described here.
Posted by Comcaster November 18, 08 11:09 PM

50. to: to bad so sad EDUCATION… let me educate you about something you dumb ass amoung you are your fellow peers many with 4 year degrees 2 year degrees, don’t under estimate their intelligence whether they finished or are still continuing their education you shouldn’t measure them by the graduation gown tassels , you should consider their character, that they are willing to show up on those picket line , rally meetings, or any other function that demonstrate the collective bargaining prosess. it is these people that make this wheel spin . they are made up of mothers and fathers sons and daughters that go home to support a family, and it is the wages EARNED from this company that provides that livelihood. they go to work everyday and put up with morons like you. that what “hang tough “means stupid dealing with the slefish self centered non thinking fools who love to see a good car wreck. save your crappy thoughts for the bathroom walls i am proud to be a union employee i am proud of the work i do and i am HANGING TOUGH
Posted by Not SAd Not Bad Proud November 18, 08 11:54 PM

51. That sounds good and I believe your passion, but there still are tons of lazy union workers. Do they discuss this at meetings? Those people ruin it for your aforementioned brothers who earn their pay. Your union needs to work on those people to bring up it’s image. Am I right?
Posted by casual observer November 19, 08 06:31 AM

52. The year I became a manager at Verizon was the last year it was good to be one. Prior to that whatever the union got in their contract the managers got just a bit more. Made you actually feel like the company realized that you were doing a good job. There was a 4 month strike in ’89. Managers were abused and in some cases harmed by some union thugs. (Please note I don’t lump all union people into this category. Most are good people.) The criminals were allowed to have their jobs back after the company “brought their best cases to arbitration”. Now managers benefits are continually ransacked to the point where the employees they supervise make more money than they do and have far better benefits. Today as Ivan Seidenberg etal continue to stuff their pockets managers are being offered up as a sacrifice to their money gods. There is no rhyme or reason as to why managers are being let go. Appraisals don’t mean a thing and are manipulated when the chosen one needs to go. The sword is hong over their heads every two or three months. People are starting to get survivors syndrome. “Whew, thank God it wasn’t me” then guilt sets in.
Posted by Glad I’m out November 19, 08 07:04 AM

53. Shame on Verizon and their gutless big wigs.
The year I became a manager at Verizon was the last year it was good to be one. Prior to that whatever the union got in their contract the managers got just a bit more. Made you actually feel like the company realized that you were doing a good job. There was a 4 month strike in ’89. Managers were abused and in some cases harmed by some union thugs. (Please note I don’t lump all union people into this category. Most are good people.) The criminals were allowed to have their jobs back after the company “brought their best cases to arbitration”. Now managers benefits are continually ransacked to the point where the employees they supervise make more money than they do and have far better benefits. Today as Ivan Seidenberg etal continue to stuff their pockets managers are being offered up as a sacrifice to their money gods. There is no rhyme or reason as to why managers are being let go. Appraisals don’t mean a thing and are manipulated when the chosen one needs to go. The sword is hong over their heads every two or three months. People are starting to get survivors syndrome. “Whew, thank God it wasn’t me” then guilt
sets in.
Posted by Glad I’m out November 19, 08 07:06 AM

54. What’s news about this story. Every business that has enployees has the same problem. Oh, let me answer my own question. Verizon did something about it.
Posted by Willie November 19, 08 07:07 AM

55. The news is: What is happening abundately at Verizon is exactly how Enron went down.
Posted by Riffed Unfairly November 19, 08 07:11 AM

56. BIG STORY>>>Boston Clobe, Boston Herald, NY TIMES,WALL STREET JOURNAL….want the REAL story?….interview the 14 that got forced out & then 20 or so of the many that left the company the past couple years along with some present employees brave enough to put their jobdss on the line…all wikk sing the same tune..many left becuse of this crap that these sacrifical lambs were cauight up in….BIG STORY behind all this on the demise of deteroration of corporate America , manupulation of people, people blinly following directives inder threat of being pnished and most of all the recipe for collapse in trust of corporate america….sometimes as simple as 1 person “rotting the pot”…a company that used to be, like America used to be, a beacon for people & part of the American dream….
Posted by Deep Throat November 19, 08 08:08 AM

57. Good opinions on this thread guys. Keep them coming. As for my position, there are good and bad managers as well as good and bad workers. The Company does not care about employees (management or union) or customer service, only about making it’s numbers and playing to Wall St. Personally, I think these managers got the short end of the stick and the only thing they really did wrong was being in the wrong place, at the wrong time. If the company focused on service, and removed the 5% of union workers and the 5% of management that are bad eggs, The whole operation would run much better.
Posted by Union and proven November 19, 08 08:30 AM

58. If wild Bill out of 2321 was CEO of Verizon we would not be having these problems. Think about it –
Posted by solution November 19, 08 08:39 AM

59. I agree! Wild Bill is THE MAN! No haircut allowance though
Posted by WILD BILL in 2012 November 19, 08 08:41 AM

60. I agree! Wild Bill is THE MAN! No haircut allowance though
Posted by WILD BILL in 2012 November 19, 08 08:41 AM

61. Basically what you have here is a convuluted work directive of what was once wrong to do( many examples of this) is now right to do & what was once right to do( again many examples and people were rewared for) is now wrong to do….all under the preperation, guise,physcological umbrella of the corportion drilling in over the past few years “change is coming”, accept change”, “if you dont change then you are your part of the problem “…more like brainwashing…the problem here is many of these peole actuially do/did look at VERIZON as a corp that would take care of them ….an example of blind trust….a corporate version of what jim jones did in george town and worse waht Hitler did to the german people…”follow me”
Posted by THE LOST SOPULD WHO BLINDLY FOLLOWED & BELIEVED November 19, 08 08:44 AM

62. Let us not forget those “Special” technicians. Four orders to complete one job. 3 made up orders and the real one. Does this help make your numbers at VZ?? What it does is backs up the workload. This is why our customers complain about restoral times. Techs sitting on bogus orders while customers sit out of service. Do you think this contributes to your overtime issues?? That’s why management and craft don’t get along. Some techs making 30K over management on BS work. When they get up to 6 bogus orders for 1 real order the money for next year in OT will probably increase. This is not a blanket statement against management or craft. Management you have created this monster. Wake up and smell the coffee!!!
Posted by VZ-Are-You-Blind November 19, 08 08:50 AM

63. this is a law firms fantasy dream case come true…………….”make sure you never come to a gun fight with only a knife”
Posted by ” Perry Mason ” November 19, 08 09:17 AM

64. The problem we have now with no plant tickets NPW and other BULLS#*IT numbers there is no overtime in core ????????? Except where DACEY and FRENNIE are I need to BID……….
Posted by MALDEN COPPER November 19, 08 09:42 AM

65. “No man is an Island…………and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee”
Be weary union & lower level mngmt… rats & upper mngmt( 2nd level up) are putting in the negative remarks on this blog about both your groups at the same time( a nazi technique in misdirection of propaganda)…. from my elevated tower for the most part -assoc’s , union & most 1st level manager did break bread together over the last 30 years……the old divide & conquer….maybe both groups should join forces ( and soon) before one or the other ceases to exist…..ever think- thats the real plan…shify & manipulative. This is a American corporate issue not just Verizon…bring the jobs back, bring the trust back, bring the accountablity back, bring the regulation back….the pendulum has swung too far one was and now its time to swing back….what yopur doing right now will be wrong in 2 years – trust me…this is why thy no longer want 30year employees-because they remember history and know where the skeletons are buried..
Posted by Deep Throath November 19, 08 09:42 AM

66. SOMEONE SEND THIS BLOG TO SECURITY… OH I FORGOT ERIC SHENNEN’S FATHER IS SECURITY NO WHERE TO GO……I WANT TO BID ALSO WHERE IS JIM AND ANTHONEY???????
Posted by SAD BUT TRUE November 19, 08 09:49 AM

67. Nice that Artie Cannon is sent as replacement 2nd liner for a terminated one. That’s Artie of Cape Cod fame who was caught doing the same thing as terminated managers but let off the hook. The same Artie who used 40 comp days but worked very few in first half of 2005. The same Artie of multiple ethics investigations. The same Artie that gave the new clerk a list of names of people you can’t trust but neglected to include his own name. Congratulations Artie.
Posted by Dazed and Confused November 19, 08 09:56 AM

68. Picture this…you order FiOS for your home but don’t tell anyone that you’ve worked for the Company for 14 years (in both management and non-unioned roles). Installation day arrives and the tech shows up 90 minutes into his tour (yet i live 3.6 miles from his garage), introduces himself and proceeds to explain that regardless of how long the installation takes, he will be parked in my driveway for eight hours. Apparently he didn’t noticed, or the dispatch clerk didn’t alert him to the fact that it was concession service. After i helped him pull some cable through a crawl space, he was finished by noon. MInd you, i never asked him to hurry and i would never begrudge someone from “pacing” themselves, so the job gets done thoroughly and accurately – but true to his word, he graced us with his presence until 3:45p – the last two hours of which were spent in his truck watching a portable TV – or reading his Maxim magazine – as both were plainly in view.
I understand that it may’ve been awkward to start another installation after lunch, and i’d like to think this individual did not represent the whole of the union force (clearly he didn’t – i had/have many friends in the craft – our families still vacation together) – but to openly admit to the customer/public that he was going to lie/cheat was a mark against us all – management & union. Its one thing to elect to let productivity slip on a rainy day, or even catch a few winks behind Cumberland Farms some day, or get some last-minute xmas shopping in for the kids, or park your truck at a job site and take a cab to go elsewhere, or yes, go home for a nooner ;), but but i never did understand a culture that would condone such blatant disregard for policy shown by my tech that day, (never mind his own personal aversion to productivity – but that’s just me).
I agree with many of the arguments made from both management and union employees above – and would have to add only one thing in response to the rancor between union and management employees:
Folks in the craft: if you are that diligent, talented and focused as you say you are, why are you hiding behind the protective reach of the union? obviously you have the ability to shine without collective bargaining – step into the light and be recognized for the good work that you do! Sure, everyone knows that there is safety in numbers, but the era of corporate ownership taking advantage of the workers has long since passed. Have confidence in your own abilities to stand up for your ideals and exceptional talents as individuals. We need more people with actual skills to step up and assert themselves.
There will always be management slackers that find ways to exploit the system, just as my FiOS tech that day demonstrated the same is possible for union folk as well. Let’s all be clear about one thing though – no one grows up saying to themselves “i don’t want to be a doctor, or lawyer or engineer – i want to splice wire, or i want to set large poles in the ground – for the rest of my life”.
Aspire to be more…
Forget the Company slogan “Make progress every day” and change it to “Make a difference every day”…if that happens, the company, and your collective futures may yet be saved.
Posted by C.W.I. Falcon November 19, 08 09:59 AM

69. Falcon have you ever worked outside? It does not matter how productive or good you are. The Buccerelli method is to try a create a climate of fear for ALL techs, not just the unproductive ones. Falcon if you think your example is not common place THEN WHY DID YOU BRING IT UP!!! Just to bash the Union apparently. I have worked for Vz for many years, first inside and now outside, and lack of respect for SST’s from management. We need the Union and our collective bargaining to earn a living wage and protect our jobs from the Joe B’s and Erici Sheehans of the world. There is a reason Verizon was nowhere toi be found in the list of 100 Best comapnies to work
Posted by Union Forever November 19, 08 10:18 AM

70. When the Employee Free Choice Act passes under President Obama I think all the First Level Managers should ORGANIZE and join the Union. This Company has taken away your pensions, your benefits and sent your jobs away. You make less than your techs. Join the Engineers and sign your cards and stand up for yourselves. Remember another RIF is coming in February and you will not haUnionve acrued much Vacation time! Union YES!!!
Posted by Union Forever November 19, 08 10:24 AM

71. If the Managers do organize then I think Wild Bill of 2321 would be a GREAT choice for their Business Manager! There would be no extravagence or suits and ties under Wild Bill. He is a no frills guy!! He is a hip, hairy bastard!
Posted by Wild Bill in 2012 November 19, 08 10:28 AM

72. I love hairy people!
Posted by N.S. Program November 19, 08 10:36 AM

73. Those who helped security & the Co. were told if they cooperated there would be no repercussions, and these actions are what followed that statement:
Security wanted information on 1 foreman, DC and 1 AOM, TS. They began interviewing people over the summer and it was very long and dragged out as everyone here (lawrence/Chelmsford), were living a Derek reign of terror for he sqealed on his peers on a daily basis to Tony and Tony in turn would be yelling at the other foremen. DC WAS the most unethical manager I have ever dealt with. He suspended, fired and harassed technicians mostly without merit, but condoned by Tony. Most all of over 30 cases have been overturned.
DC was getting paid to be a night manager but worked days. He put in for overtime not worked, took vacation days he did not put in for, golfed while working, took wife to dinner while another foreman worked his call out only DC
put in and got the overtime for that and the other foreman was refused the OT by TS. They both stole company property and the sick part of this is that Derek was ALLOWED to resign! When security came here for him at the beginning
of October he wouldnt come, he resigned instead. Does Tony know that Derek squealed like a pig on Tony? Or that Derek told his peers “I am not
going down for that guy!”
Another quote of Derek’s heard by his peers, “I know how to break the Union, you just start with the most senior guy and work your way down.” Any one remember Gene Murphy??
No one ever asked me anything. Why? They can’t handle the truth!”
To fire 3 innocent managers, and they are innocent, is totally disgusting and without merit. They followed what Tony (and sometines Derek) told them to do and if they didnt, they were either threatened with their jobs or being sent to a distant location.
And finally, my 2 cents regarding Joe B., I have known of him for many many years and when he was 1st level in Cambridge, MA, his nickmane then was “The resident Book Cooker”. Nothing has changed with him except he has reaped monetary rewards and made a dictator for being a cheat. In case you never met him or heard him speak, he has no class at all and talks just like Jethro Bowdine of the Beverly Hillbillies, but in Joe’s case he’s got to throw in the 4 letter words so you will listen!
Anyone who is trying to help the innocents of this witch hunt is being told by HR that it is over and to let it lie. WE CAN’T DO THAT, WE HAVE A CONSCIENCE!”
Posted by SpongeBob-NoPants November 19, 08 10:41 AM

74. I STILL LOVE HAIRY PEOPLE!
Posted by N.S. Program November 19, 08 10:46 AM

75. Go Pedroia !
Posted by Time’s up November 19, 08 10:56 AM

76. To Union Forever….
Would get back into the union in a heartbeat. Never disliked the union. A few bad apples do not spoil the bunch so most managers know you are good people. Those who bash have never worked your side of the job so they haven’t got a clue.
Unionize the 1st levels! Watch morale increase 500%. Watch productivity jump. Maybe even watch a pension return? Dear God, PLEASE!
Posted by Pension = M.I.A. November 19, 08 11:03 AM

77. “One should examine oneself for a very long time before thinking of condeming others”. By doing so the real truth will become very apparent.
Posted by Moliere November 19, 08 11:17 AM

78. Why is Chris Santucci still on the Property!!!
Posted by Spongebob November 19, 08 11:23 AM

79. ” A happy employee is a productive employee ”
Posted by Genius November 19, 08 11:25 AM

80. Honestly. As has been said before there are good managers and bad managers, good union and bad union.
Unfortunately it is the worst of both that seem to permeate our company.
If the union spent more time doing their job then trying to find ways to grieve management or get out of doing work, it would be a much more productive company.
Posted by just get to work November 19, 08 12:01 PM

81. If I was hired by this company over the last 2 years I would be scared to death! I would be wondering, hmmm… what is next? Who can I trust? Has the company come to you, since they don’t allow you to talk to anyone, and told you what went on over the past couple of years? These would have been the same people telling you how to do your job, stressing do more with less. These were the same people telling you to climb that “double pole”,cause if you don’t….OSHA are you listening?…we will find someone who will. Remember this, think before you act…and if you do something that is unsafe the company will not care, they will just fire you and move on.
Posted by New hire November 19, 08 12:01 PM

82. I just love you union guys who think a job is your God given right. If you do good work and you put in the effort, what do you know, you might keep your job and the company will make more money and be able to afford to pay you more money. It really works that way and I can attest to it. I have had a job since I was 10 years old and I am over 60 years old now. I’ve worked either full or part time as I needed a job and have NEVER been in a union. But then again I wanted to be good at what I do. I wasn’t out to screw the company I worked for or the customers it served.
Posted by EHH November 19, 08 12:16 PM

83. The number one problem with Verizon is Micro-Management. The company is run by a bunch of bean counters who are more worried about what time you took a lunch, gps, and check numbers than what is really important, the customer.
Posted by .. November 19, 08 12:24 PM

84. Bye-bye CoCo!
Posted by Putin November 19, 08 12:26 PM

85. Why are people talking about the union when it is management that was caught lying, cheating, and stealing?
It may not be your God given right for your job but it is your right in this country to organize and bargain collectively.
All that matters is Ivan got his
Posted by ivan November 19, 08 12:29 PM

86. Why are people talking about the union when it is management that was caught lying, cheating, and stealing?
It may not be your God given right for your job but it is your right in this country to organize and bargain collectively.
All that matters is Ivan got his
Posted by ivan November 19, 08 12:29 PM

87. Posted by ivan ..comment #85 & 86 ..you should read comment #65.. ” No man is an island.”….don’t let them drag you in…..you’re falling into the company trap
Posted by be wary of misdirection November 19, 08 12:40 PM

88. ALL OF YOU GET BACK TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by JOE B November 19, 08 12:42 PM

89. I was raped in a mens room by Ivan seidenberg and Larry Babbio
Posted by Tommy Butt November 19, 08 12:49 PM

90. “EHH”
WHAT rock did you just climb out from under?
”If you do good work and you put in the effort, what do you know, you might keep your job and the company will make more money and be able to afford to pay you more money. It really works that way and I can attest to it. ”
Are you kidding? Maybe in 1949 that’s how it worked, but today the company doesn’t pay you more if you do a good job and they make more money……… The company gets greedy and raises the CEO’s pay then lays off the worker…..
Why are people bashing the union here? how many UNION WORKERS are part of the financial mess we are in? How many work for the company’s that have been run in to the toilet? NOT UNION workers… All EDUCATION people with there expensive degree’s.
Posted by comcastworker November 19, 08 12:49 PM

91. Boston Globe & Boston.com…beware & take constitutional rights to heart here…keep sacred peoples privacy & american right to repond to an issue…you’re dealing with BIG BROTHER’s daddy here…not trying to get overdramatic but THEY are like the MATRIX….don’t be shocked if someone is on your site right now trying to determine where these precious freedom of oponions/speeches are coming from……..I’ve seen it, as most in the telecomm world have ..some adhere to ethics /privacy/personal freedoms & rights just as some abuse them………..I’m not trying to scare anyone ..you have the right to say what you want and state an oponion ..people have died for you to have that right. and have it protected ….
Posted by NEO November 19, 08 12:57 PM

92. All I can say is this is not the same comapny I came into 10 years ago. I was union and in an effort “to get somewhere” entered management – how stupid was I???? The union for all of the bashing they take and whatever people say about them, are the smart ones !! This company makes money hand over fist and does not care about it’s customers or employees. We are all expendable.
Putting customers first?? We can’t – as it is most 1st and some 2nds are working 10-12 hrs per day and still can’t keep up. The majority of the people in this company in the lower levels take pride in their work and want to do a good job for the people who pay the bill “THE CUSTOMER” but we are unable because of the STOOPID decisions of those who have no idea what us lowly people do. NOTE TO THE UNION – Start the organizing process at the 1st level – I’m sure you’ll be suprised at the amount of people interested!
Posted by Indentured Servant@verizon November 19, 08 01:00 PM

93. The problem is there is no trust in this company. Everyone is looking over there shoulders whether union or management. The person categorizing union members as uneducated people, must not be an employee. Our leadership from stewards on up, are far more educated and dedicated. This company was built by Union employees, but management is tearing it down. Threats and lies is the worst form of management, that is why workplace injuries are on the rise as well as people out on stress.
Posted by bb November 19, 08 01:03 PM

94. THANKS BB ! The stewards do their job, and don’t get thanks for it.
Posted by THANKLESS STEWARD JOB November 19, 08 01:08 PM

95. After all this bickering, let’s remember….
THE YANKEES SUCK
Posted by AROD CHOKES AGAIN November 19, 08 01:18 PM

96. Management gets credit from their superiors for handing out discipline. Their superiors decide their bonus at the end of the year. Union workers are getting suspended without pay for petty, petty things. Unless you work here, you could not possibly understand. The past couple of years have been terrible. I hope things change in the future because I like the people I work with and I like what I do for a living but when I am driving to work in the morning I do not know if I will be approached by management and sent home suspended without pay for doing nothing wrong. The union leadership tells us to hang in there and we are but it has been difficult.
Posted by Hoping for Change November 19, 08 01:20 PM

97. Molly Ivins:
Although it is true that only about 20 percent of American workers are in unions, that 20 percent sets the standards across the board in salaries, benefits and working conditions. If you are making a decent salary in a non-union company, you owe that to the unions. One thing that corporations do not do is give out money out of the goodness of their hearts
We’re Union, we’re proven!
Posted by Hang Tough November 19, 08 01:30 PM

98. You people are nothing but Digital Equipment Corporation revisited…Check your history books…No one now gets to work for the same company for 50 years anymore…why don’t you people update your resumes and move on!!
Ya think – The Union is causing these problems. Maybe you could ask the government for a bail out.
Posted by Ex-Decie November 19, 08 01:42 PM

99. FYI:
It’s 12.8% in Unions. 7% in the private sector.
Also … managers with reporting people can’t organize. That was the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Kentucky River decision.
Last thing … every one of the Magnificent 14 got what you deserved. For every one of you that says you were a good guy/gal, I can provide a name of someone you screwed over the years. So long, and good riddance. The world’s better off without you.
Posted by One Happy Camper November 19, 08 01:49 PM

100. Just heard about this blog from a co-worker. I have to admit that some of these 14 managers did not deserve to be fired. I worked for one of them and they were polite and respectful towards me. He earned my respect and I believe I earned his respect too. For a guy with less than 1 year in a garage – SSt environment, he clearly was misinformed-guided to do what he was told to do by his superiors and more than likely didn’t know any better. Regardless if you’re management or union, but how can any person be held accountable for something that was not in his CONTROL. This company called Verizon is a far cry from what it used to be. Customer service is non-existant, it’s all about the numbers plain and simple. Some managers who should have been fired are still on the property today and it’s a shame. They are cancers and breed the same corporate design as their superiors do. They are the first ones to pull the pin from the hand grenade and walk out of the room so everyone is caught in the kill zone but never them. We all know your types Dacey and Freni. Enjoy your little world you have created for yourselves because it’s a lonely world all alone isn’t it. Watch your steps over the bridges you’ve burned.
Posted by NorthEast skeletons from the closet November 19, 08 02:01 PM

101. Dear Ex-Decie, Yes, there are people that still work for the same company for 50 years, I hope to be one of them, I am only half way there and after what Wall Street did to my 401k and pension, it appears I will have to be here for quite some time., thank God for seniority. The Union is NOT casuing these problems for management, mismanagement is causing these problems. Management focuses on unreachable numbers, the union membership focuses on our customers. We the membership, as uneducated and lazy as we are, saw this coming when management started losing their pensions, benefits, overtime, comp time and vacation time. We, the membership, you know, the fat, rat, dumbasses, somehow came out of this with our jobs intact, now why would I want to update my resume and move on? Move on to what, the unemployment line? There are way too many people on it already, thanks to mismanagement and greed. The Labor Union is not asking for a government bailout, that would be the CEO’s who ran huge corporations into the ground. The American people need Labor, someone has to pay for the ineptitude of these idiots. We’re Union, We’re Proven
Posted by Hang Tough November 19, 08 02:06 PM

102. Nice publicity VERIZON!! Why don’t you keep this up until you give the company such a bad name that you drive the stock down to .03 cents a share, eventually the company folds, you lose all your pensions (plus medical insurance) then you folks could blog about Verizon all day long!!
WOW…What a bunch of whining ungratefuls…and just curious are you all doing this blogging while folks are waiting for service, installations and repairs!!
Posted by get to work November 19, 08 02:07 PM

103. You’re right! Hey Joe, fire all your managers! There ain’t a decent soul in the bunch … Oh ya, that’s how you like’em. Obedient and replaceable.
Posted by One Happy Camper November 19, 08 02:08 PM

104. hey BOYAN “what goes around comes around”. you were an ass as a union member, you were an ass as a manager, and you are an ass as an ex-manager. that is the VERIZON TRIPLE PLAY. why don’t you show some sack and call the bucc out to P.O. PARK would be a good throw down maybe ppv would be interested
Posted by alexander g. bell November 19, 08 02:14 PM

105. “A quality job”… the VZ union motto. Yet, here in New England they continue to be the lowest producing workforce in the entire corporation. A quality job means wasting an hour or two in the garge shooting the breeze, then off to the coffee shop for breakfast, find a SAC box to have a nap and then stick the old “Sorry we missed you” sign on the customers’ doorknob.
A culture that has developed for decades and may now be irrevocably imbedded in this company. Management has no stones to confront the associates so they hack first liners.
The union takes what the corporation gives them. You can’t fault them for that.
However, it is slowly happening. Outsourcing…Ivan & Denny’s ultimate goal; to be the only 2 employees of VZ. Everything else is “subbed” out. It’s happening…today.
This is not the phone company our parents worked for, where the motto was take care of your people, they’ll take care of the customer.
It’s about two people now.
Posted by LETCM November 19, 08 02:19 PM

106. Let us never forget the fios techs who were laid off last year. They had some of the best productivity out of anyone. Simply let go because their arbitration rights were going to kick in. They never fudged numbers or misled anyone. They were let go for one reason “UNION BUSTING.”
Posted by BB November 19, 08 02:21 PM

107. Bye bye guys. An effort “to get somewhere” ?!? (post 92) Oh that’s right, I remember you talking about the prestige of being a manager. I bet everyone down at the unemployment office is just blown away by you. Now get a shovel, I hear Mirra’s hiring.
Posted by One Happy Camper November 19, 08 02:29 PM

108. LETCM have you ever been an outside tech at Verizon? Do you even work for the company? Betting your just another blogger with no concept of work. We have GPS, No one stops at a coffee shop or the like. I had the same misinterpretations of outside techs till I started doing the job. Most of the guys are hard working and do a quality job. This company makes billions in profit but it is not enough. We are the stalwards against Corporate Greed. As a Direct TV tech what their day is like sometime.
Posted by Union Forever November 19, 08 02:40 PM

109. Just one question for C.W.I. Falcon. Why didn’t you tell the tech you were/are a Verizon employee? Sounds a little sneaky to me, you coward. You just wanted to be able to tell all of your other manager friends that they were right about “us”. Or maybe you thought he might do a sub-standard job if he knew you were a management scumbag, although i doubt it would have made a difference.
Posted by Brutus November 19, 08 02:59 PM

110. Brutus,
That is one really dumb come back. Are you saying the techncians need to be tipped off that they are working in a Verizon employees house to do a quality job? Also, you wrote “although i doubt it would have made a difference”. Are you saying it doesnt matter who the customer is, the union does sub-standard work??
I am all for union labor, and have been a union member for over 20 years, however you make comments that paint union workers as sub-par..
Posted by J. Hoffa November 19, 08 03:08 PM

111. I totally agree with #95
Posted by NJ VZ employee/Sox fan November 19, 08 03:10 PM

112. Dear LETCM, You are extremely uninformed. Here in New England we are the MOST productive in the company. We beat Maryland, we beat Texas, we beat the West Coast, we beat them all. Consistently. Union Forever is correct, our techs do have GPS, it is the managers that are sitting at the coffee shops trying to figure out how to use them. One more thing, the Union Motto here in New England…”NOTHING BUT A QUALITY JOB”. Union Forever is also correct pointing out that you are a no-life blogger, if you are using Verizon DSL service, you can thank our membership. We’re Prove, We’re Union
Posted by Hang Tough November 19, 08 03:13 PM

113. The 14 that were fired, can one of them get me Celtic tickets? Yankees do suck.
Posted by Jay November 19, 08 03:16 PM

114. Hoffa, that is not what i’m saying at all. We should all do quality work no matter where we are working. I meant it wouldn’t have made a difference to the tech if the guy was or wasn’t an employee, he would have done the job the same. If someone from the company you work for Hoffa, came to your house to do work, you wouldn’t disclose that information to him or her?
Posted by Brutus November 19, 08 03:39 PM

115. For you “employees” complaining about Verizon making money “hand over fist”…..PS that’s a good thing!! Why don’t you air your complaint to the auto maker union employees …those poor folks, their companies are not doing well at all, maybe they would like to listen to your sad, sad stories
Posted by Are You Kidding Me??? November 19, 08 03:49 PM

116. brutus & hoffa ..same side/common grounds here…read #65…THEIR plan is working…..now its at another level..even the same sides are arguing..keep it simple…follow where the directives come from
Logic: if such a thing as an irresistible force exists, then no object is immovable, and vice versa. It is logically impossible to have these two entities (a force that cannot be resisted and an object that cannot be moved by any force) in the same universe…..a mangement & a non-mangement force?
Posted by doesn’t matter November 19, 08 03:59 PM

117. Wild Bill of 2321.
Posted by solution November 19, 08 04:22 PM

118. For those of you supporting the union, be aware:
They get 6% matched to 401K by company.
They pay 0 towards medical
They pay 0 towards pension
They pay 0 for tuition.
They make $120K a year with OT
They do 2 jobs a day and half that if they can get away with it.
They pay more in taxes most weeks than most of you actually MAKE a week.
How bad do you feel for the “poor, mistreated union brothers” now?
Posted by BringNomarBackNOW November 19, 08 04:25 PM

119. I have but one thing to say, BRING DUKE BACK TO HANDLE BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Kevin (DUKE) Donnelly November 19, 08 04:31 PM

120. Hey Hang Tough, You and all of your Democrat voting friends suck.
Posted by NY TECH November 19, 08 04:33 PM

121. Yes, BringNomarBackNow, all of what you say is true. It is the fruits of unionized labor. We are strong when we bargain collectively. The Union is not an every man for himself organization, it is proof that their is strength in numbers. Join a Union, our brotherhood does not discriminate, we happily encourage everyone that is underpaid, overworked, brow beaten to come and join our forces! We welcome you! We do indeed pay more in taxes most weeks than most of you actually make a week. It is all true, we are proud to be a member of our Union, proud of the work we do, proud of the benefits that we have collectively bargained for. Proud to take you into our brotherhood. Thanks for once again, proving my point. We are not asking you to feel bad for us, we are asking you to join us. Ask the 14 managers who were fired how they feel to be separated from Verizon, ask them how they feel to be disciplined for overblown and unfair charges, ask them how it feels to be without a Union standing behind them. Me? I am proud to say I am Union, I am Proven!
Posted by Hang Tough November 19, 08 04:40 PM

122. NT Tech, You are also correct, me and my Democrat voting friends Suck, realy well I might add, BUT we don’t suck nearly as bad as your YANKEES!
Posted by Hang Tough November 19, 08 04:43 PM

123. NT Tech, You are also correct, my Democrat voting friends and I suck, really well I might add, We hope to aspire to SUCK AS BAD AS THE NEW YORK YANKEES!!!!!
Posted by Hang Tough November 19, 08 04:44 PM

124. NT Tech, You are also correct, my Democrat voting friends and I suck, really well I might add, WIITH PRACTICE WE MAY SUCK AS BAD AS THE NEW YORK YANKEES!!!!!
Posted by Hang Tough November 19, 08 04:45 PM

125. This same crap has been going on forever scum begets scum .Union pride,baby!Do it once do it right,hoes!
Posted by a 3rd level manager November 19, 08 04:57 PM

126. I have been in the company for 27years most spent in managment some good times and some bad times and this is one of those bad times. Most (not all) of the managers who were termenated deserved it ,but it should have started at the top (Joe B.) (Eric S. and Joe S.) ETC>>>. I will also say from being in the union and also having Tecs. work underneath me that there are many more good union members then bad!!!! And many many many more Bad managers than there are good!!!! Let the Tecs do ther job and stop the BS and let us manage like we use to we knew who the F-up’s were and we would deal with them we did not put every union member in the catagorie…..ONE OF THE FEW OLDER LEFTOVER MANAGERS…..GOOD LICK BOYS
Posted by FIRST LEVEL MANAGMENT November 19, 08 04:58 PM

127. No more fake numbers less work lessTecs….Thanks North Reading Tecs
Posted by 25 year union tec November 19, 08 05:03 PM

128. I also am a 10th level manager.Go pats!
Posted by level 10 November 19, 08 05:11 PM

129. I need a yankee drill hellp!
Posted by 30 year vetran tech east buffalo November 19, 08 05:15 PM

130. I need a yankee drill hellp!
Posted by 30 year vetran tech east buffalo November 19, 08 05:15 PM

131. I take it all back….I REALLY LOVE THE YANKEES. I LOVE A-ROD. HE IS MY HERO
Posted by Hang Tough November 19, 08 05:16 PM

132. Now let’s see; Managers falsified times, strong armed any who opposed, treated their subordinates like peasants then when caught, said “we were just following orders”.
Hmmmmmmm ,didn’t we hear that same thing in WWII?
Posted by hitofly November 19, 08 05:18 PM

133. Royals got lucky with CoCo. We don’t need no more stinking Ramirezs.
Posted by UNION JACK November 19, 08 05:21 PM

134. Hey Hang Tough Too, I don’t take it all back, I meant every word of it, Jeeter sucks, AROD swallows. BOSOX, PATS, CELTICS, BRUINS!!! Nuff said!
Posted by Hang Tough November 19, 08 05:24 PM

135. Is that the same wild Bill that has done nothing but stare into space for the past 13 years???What a country!
Posted by My Scoch Lock November 19, 08 05:27 PM

136. If Eric Sheehan and John Diliegro went to high school together and are good friends, isn’t that a violation of the Business Code of Conduct?

Posted by Brown Meter November 19, 08 05:34 PM

137. It is kind of funny watching all these people bash the union enviorment. We have a collective bargaining agreement for a reason to avoid such fisaco’s as this. We work with a contract to protect us… Hell it is such a GOOD idea all Verizon’s top executives do as well Ivan has his, so does Denny.
What this boils down to, right or wrong is people being preasured to meet unrealistic numbers & productivity standards to satisfy Wall Street’s fictitious anyalyst prediction of how much FiOS should cost. The union workers can defend themselves those above sadly cannot.
I am a proud IBEW member for 11 years we all know the politics in this company. I have had good managers and awful ones. When you leave the bargaining unit or you take a job into management off the street your considered an at will employee.
You have no contract no protection so why is everyone shocked? In politics there are always scapegoat’s so no one should be shocked. Till you get to a 3rd level position in this company your expendable. Thats life in VZ we all know it.
Posted by Happy I have a contract November 19, 08 05:46 PM

138. The reason why eric sheenenene didnt take that job in NY is because he is a moron..Once a moron (ENG)always a moron..The guy cant even a have a meeting with his techs in a room nevermind trying to do the job he suppose to do,and he cant even do that without falsifying records its always sneaky one on one in the field.This guy wont even make it past second level and if he does it will be because of daddy.Can you Imagin him third level in NY CITY FIOS dealing CWA techs and the public…He knows daddy wont be there for him to save him.Do yourself a favor eric…get lost.
Posted by tony freny November 19, 08 06:00 PM

139. Get the 2nd level manager with family ties off the golf course and back to work!!! Is it a violation of Verizon conduct to get paid while golfing all day???? just wondering
Posted by Enterprising Kingpin November 19, 08 06:00 PM

140. really want to know who the rats are in Boston & outside burbs?….. look at the 30+ year contractors back in construction doing so called qualities & const foreman functions…they are the ones that puked( and still are) on everyone….”they did it better”….I wonder why they want less managers & less experienced techs? duhhhhh……..beware what you say to these true scabs ….that were like dogs after a meat wagon when the contract deadline approached……greedy f*&*%*%
Posted by brockton/bostonburberbob November 19, 08 06:02 PM

141. Karma works it’s magic. Happy Chinese New Year ya loser, and that big bad italian, not even showing up to face D-day, where were his balls then, oh wait his pal spongebob ate them just before he was wiping his tears with stolen paper towels. What goes around came around finally!!
Posted by litl’ thai November 19, 08 06:13 PM

142. RATS are easy to find…..They RAT on their brother in laws to save his own arse…They SUSPEND fellow union people after taking a permanent set up after getting his job back (1 year absense) by the UNION….These managers are the lowest forms of humanity….You can find them in Chelmsford and Lynn.
Posted by InTheKnow November 19, 08 06:13 PM

143. To bad Security and Internal Auditing didn’t catch up with Joe Buccierelli when he was in NY. He didn’t just have a non-authorized company car he used to go back and forth to New England with, he also was receiving a car allowance. Double dipping Joe! But as I was told, that was OK, after all it was Joe B and he was the VP and could do anything. Verizon, Enron with a V. A house of cards built on the backs of lower management and the union, destroyed by the senior management with their greed and arrogance.
Posted by Frustrated Retiree November 19, 08 06:13 PM

144. All I have to say is bring back Malerba! I know I screwed up ratting him out!!
Please bring him back. I’m scared!!! The guys that work for me are threatening me with cartoons on the board. I know I sound like a wimp but I am really tough. I hope the guys in Dracut don’t draw silly cartoons about me too. I might have to set up a camera and watch them too. I wonder if anyone is watching me?????????
Posted by Paul Diamantopoulos (first level rat) November 19, 08 06:35 PM

145. Mikey Mikey……Bring back Mikey !!! I agree…
Posted by The Roofer November 19, 08 06:38 PM

146. Malerba! Malerba! Malerba! Malerba! Malerba! Malerba
Posted by Paul Diamantopoulos (first level rat) November 19, 08 06:40 PM

147. Hey Jack C…… Wern’t you the king of dw tickets? Oh thats right , you were just doing what your boss told you to do.
Posted by Steve B November 19, 08 06:43 PM

148. jack hirl don’t fret none, the cable crew have a new idiot, REGGIE, Don’t worry either your union buddies are sucking up to a new boss now. Down with those people who stand on a pedestal with their self righteous selves. Both on the Union and Management side. Have you not learned a golden rule that should have been taught to you. What comes around goes around. Any Human resource person who hires these people beware. Tony Sisoian, Young Jin, Derek Conrad, Jack Hirl, Dominic Delgavio, and numerous other has been verizon managers. You splineless F&^%*&%ks
Posted by Concerned shareholder November 19, 08 06:47 PM

149. jack hirl don’t fret none, the cable crew have a new idiot, REGGIE, Don’t worry either your union buddies are sucking up to a new boss now. Down with those people who stand on a pedestal with their self righteous selves. Both on the Union and Management side. Have you not learned a golden rule that should have been taught to you. What comes around goes around. Any Human resource person who hires these people beware. Tony Sisoian, Young Jin, Derek Conrad, Jack Hirl, Dominic Delgavio, and numerous other has been verizon managers. You splineless F&^%*&%ks
Posted by Concerned shareholder November 19, 08 06:47 PM

150. This blog is like a train wreck it sickens me yet i can not log off.
Posted by tired red eyes November 19, 08 06:49 PM

151. Malerba!!!!!! Bring him back!!!!
Posted by Paul Diamantopoulos (first level rat) November 19, 08 06:51 PM

152. I want to get to 11th level iam only a10th level what should I do?
Posted by 2222-noooo November 19, 08 06:58 PM

153. Mr. Macdonald you RAT. Keep your lies where you are we don’t need your typeu in 2222. Hang Tough! Erik and co. will get Theirs!
Posted by down hill side November 19, 08 07:03 PM

154. Is anyone interested in a “CLASS ACTION SUIT,” let me know and I will find an attorney! We were ethical, treated horriable, abused, retaliated against, beat up, and no one would protect us. The network took us out.
Posted by Mr. Honorable November 19, 08 07:03 PM

155. Wrongful termination is against the law.
Posted by Mr. Honorable November 19, 08 07:05 PM

156. Most of the 14 managers deserved to get fired but some did not, the managers that got cought in the crossfire I feel bad for. It is a tough situation when a manager got fired for doing something that other managers were also doing and nothing happened to the other managers. People should realize that there are families that are affected, kids that will not have a merry Christmas because daddy is broke and miserable because he has no job or money. This is a tough economy to find a new job especially when you were fired from your last job.
Posted by Fitzy November 19, 08 07:10 PM

157. I am so glad that I am retired and don’t have to put up with all the bs at VZ. As a Union member for 35 years, I always took pride in my job made sure that the customer came first. I had worked for some great foremen who came from the field and knew the job. In the last five years of my career, managemnet especially 1st and 2nd levels were people off the street with no telco knowledge or technicans with under 5 years of service who took the job because of the “status’ position they thought they held.Theses later “managers” were all idiots and really demoralized the workforce. How do you work with pride when you are treated like shi……..? When idiots like these people are fired, I don’t have any animosity for them but when decent foreman are put under the gun and made to fudge numbers for upper management and then canned , I have remorse for them. The only thing that I can say for the decent managers that were fired is that you’re lucky to get out of there. Now maybe you will find an employer willing to offer you a pension, health benefits and vacation. VZ is not the only game in town you’ll find out. To the other fired scumbags , you can rot in hell!
Posted by Glad to be retired November 19, 08 07:42 PM

158. I am so glad that I am retired and don’t have to put up with all the bs at VZ. As a Union member for 35 years, I always took pride in my job made sure that the customer came first. I had worked for some great foremen who came from the field and knew the job. In the last five years of my career, managemnet especially 1st and 2nd levels were people off the street with no telco knowledge or technicans with under 5 years of service who took the job because of the “status’ position they thought they held.Theses later “managers” were all idiots and really demoralized the workforce. How do you work with pride when you are treated like shi……..? When idiots like these people are fired, I don’t have any animosity for them but when decent foreman are put under the gun and made to fudge numbers for upper management and then canned , I have remorse for them. The only thing that I can say for the decent managers that were fired is that you’re lucky to get out of there. Now maybe you will find an employer willing to offer you a pension, health benefits and vacation. VZ is not the only game in town you’ll find out. To the other fired scumbags , you can rot in hell!
Posted by Glad to be retired November 19, 08 07:43 PM

159. as in the watergate “follow the money”……in this case follow the “contractors & those who want them.”..they all work for security, in one way or another, with one goal in mind -make room for their retired buddies/kids…..you do not matter-union & lower managment….an ends to a means…someone mentioned earlier the only ones cutting a real VERIZON check at the end will be 2 or 3 at the top….everything else to contractors at will & overseas..thats where its all headed…join forces before its too late. Not just verizon but across the board with other unions & parties…now is the time to unify & get over the differances & focus on the similiarities…go for the gold..take back the company…..the fallen will be exhonerated in time if they are represented by the right lawyers…for the rest…this is an opportunity……an opportunity to set up the future for you families & friends …not theirs.
Posted by bostonseenit&hearditfirsthand November 19, 08 07:43 PM

160. CWI Falcon: “the era of corporate ownership taking advantage of the workers has long since passed” Are you kidding??? The minute management has any power over an employee they will surely abuse it. Verizon proves every day that this is absolutely true. Between losing our pensions, decreased benefits, longer work hours and constant threats to sell FIOS or else your job will be in jeopardy. We have our jobs to do and then we have to sell FIOS on top of that? On the rare occasion you do “sell one more”, the job becomes such a fiasco you have to babysit that as well.
I have personally witnessed 2nd levels swearing/screaming at their 1st levels at meetings. Then attend these BS Cheerleading Summits where upper levels say they will not tolerate such behavior and to call ethics or call them and they will look into it. Yeah right , you’ll be on the next train out of town or fired. There is no trust in any of the so called leadership in Verzion.
If you cheat, you should be fired BUT all should go, not selected ones. The good ol boy network is alive and well. Everyone knows who are the chosen ones but someday Joe will be gone and his underlings will be seen for exactly what they are.
Seeing Artie Cannon as a replacement for a fired 2nd is a joke. Give him time he’ll be on his way out. He once said at a district meeting, in front of about 60 people, all managers, including Bob Glynn, the district level at the time, “The way to catch a tech off base is to lie. It’s our word against theirs”! This is a great example of the types of people this company promotes. He should have been fired ages ago when Brian Adams was terrorizing the Cape. No one said a word though, it was business as usual.
A few more people that should hit the road are Patty Regan and Paul McCarthy. Talk about unethical treatment of managers!!! These two are the poster children…
Posted by Lois Griffin November 19, 08 07:46 PM

161. What I am about to say is based on FACT, and only fact. Joe Bucciarelli ordered Frank Toce to bring the numbers up. After all they got $$ for doing such a good job, and Bucciarelli’s pocket was calling. Joe got rid of all the people “in the way” and brought in his own crew that he is partial to take over. Little does he know some of the “new” Managers are cheating too. It will all catch up to you Mr. Bucciarelli. You will lose very soon. This is only the beginning, and the end isn’t near for a long time. Erik Sheehan belongs without a job. Mr Pretty Boy you are just like your daddy. Corrupt, lying, cheating, coniving, and dishonest. That makes you the best ROLE MODEL for Verizon.
Joe Bucciarelli is best friends with Joe Sheehan (head of Security) Our Security department led the investigation. Joe Sheehans’ son EriK Sheehan is in Woburn. Erik’s Managers all falsify time cards and the only reason they didn’t get fired, is because JOE SHEEHAN is the head of Security and he happens to be his daddy.I have been working in the company for well over 25 years and I know what goes on. I see it on a daily basis. The 2nd level Managers Sisoian and Daley were justified in getting fired. I don’t believe for one minute, that 4 of the Managers fired should have been fired. Our Security department is corrupt, and Verizon needs to hire an independent Security Department to handle ALL Investigations. They should re-look into some of the firings that recently happened, and they will know it was wrong and unjust. I have heard the 2nd level Manager threaten his 1st level Managers. To take their jobs away and make sure they never work for the company again. Bob Mudge you need to open your eyes and your heart, and get Joe Bucciarelli (MR> I AM CORRUPT OUT OF VERIZON. hE IS DESTROYING THE COMPANY and it’s morale. Relook at the total picture of what happened and where the direction came from. He hung everyone by a noose pretty much and threatened them. My recommendation to Ivan Seidenberg, look beyond your paycheck, and see what’s really going on. Your company is corrupt and it’s going to vail within 2 years time. Verizon will hit the bottom, and you won’t be earning a paycheck anymore if you don’t stop the corruption NOW.
Posted by the see’er sees and knows all November 19, 08 07:47 PM

162. I will admit one thing, there are some union brothers who abuse the system. They give us all a bad name. However, most of us work hard for what we have and if that means I have to take only a 2 hour lunch, cut my nap to 45 minutes and read only half the paper in the truck in the morning, then I will. IBEW all the way. Tomorrow I PROMISE I will work before 11AM. I swear!
Posted by Hang Tough November 19, 08 07:47 PM

163. You might think that a man, that has made it as far as ‘The Butcher’ has made it with Verizon, would be a little concerned about firing someone for following the same practices that have been in use for years and directly attributed to many a promotion. I just think it is a bad policy to terminate someone for FOLLOWING ORDERS.
I don’t see a law suit, I see Verizon settling well before it were ever to go to court.
Posted by Waiting for JUSTICE November 19, 08 07:52 PM

164. Education never made ANYONE a good manager. There is far more being effective then education.
Posted by Not your boss anymore November 19, 08 07:55 PM

165. Look at the big picture. Were closer to fixing this problem than we were.
This means Joe B has one General left. What happens when we take Fort Locust St. and get rid of that canoli eating Hitler Eric S. Get rid of Eric, cut the head of the snake, and his band of idiots in Woburn will crumple. Then who can Joe B trust to do his dirty work. Theres no one left. No ones going take a bullet for the little italian once Hitler goes. Then we’ll watch Joe B run for the door as fast as he can. That’s how we fix the problem.
Posted by ThinkStrategy November 19, 08 08:00 PM

166. There is nothing more pathetic than the lowlife who has been using “Hang Tough”‘s name in the last several posts. The real Hang Tough was making cogent points and this other piece of human excrement has chosen to mock him. This Manager firing is a serious issue and many of us are trying to discuss it in a serious manner but the anonymous losers seem intent on dragging it down into the mud. Its a shame people cannot discuss matters like adults. And for the record the Slogan “Hang Tough” is associated with 2222 President Ed Fitzpatrick (Fitzy). This man has done more in his life to both get working people a fair contract and to help members with personal issues than anyone and for ou to mock him is revolting.GROW UP SCUMBAG!!!!
Posted by Union Forever November 19, 08 08:04 PM

167. There is nothing more pathetic than the lowlife who has been using “Hang Tough”‘s name in the last several posts. The real Hang Tough was making cogent points and this other piece of human excrement has chosen to mock him. This Manager firing is a serious issue and many of us are trying to discuss it in a serious manner but the anonymous losers seem intent on dragging it down into the mud. Its a shame people cannot discuss matters like adults. And for the record the Slogan “Hang Tough” is associated with 2222 President Ed Fitzpatrick (Fitzy). This man has done more in his life to both get working people a fair contract and to help members with personal issues than anyone and for ou to mock him is revolting.GROW UP SCUMBAG!!!!
Posted by Union Forever November 19, 08 08:05 PM

168. 1989..About to start college…Not…Dads on strike..Out to help provide for our family I go. Fast forward 5 yrs and I am walking into my 1st of many garages.It did not take long to figure out why my father was so proud of what he did for a living. All the guys were great to be around and everyone took pride in the work they did. Til this day I look at some of these timeless lead splices w/the techs # attached to it and wonder how good would that look if his boss was rushing him to hurry up so he could make his #s.
Pride in working for this company is gone..but pride in the union is still alive and well. Alot has changed…but I still get that pumped up feeling when I here Fitzy’s “REMEMBER YOUR A UNION MEMBER”. My dad may not have been able to take care of college then. With his hard work and that of all my union brothers I’m here now…on a bargained for right. So thanks dad..for 16 wks on the street …it taught the company a lesson..and taught me one too..HANG TOUGH!!!
Posted by MYLESFORPRESIDENT November 19, 08 08:05 PM

169. Hang Tough,
You hit the rat right on the head. Bully #25 and his SUCKBALL friends are the bottom of the barrel. These are the chosen few. They drank the coolaid and asked for seconds. They are given OT, the best work, new tools, new trucks, and are allowed to do as they wish with no fear of discipline. All they had to do to get this preferential treatment is sell their soul. They really believe the lies they are fed day in and day out. When our new 2nd level came to our garage we were told “pick up the productivity” and our OT would increase with it, “safety is a priority”, and they are looking to make it a ” Family atmosphere”. With the urging of Bully and his SUCKBALL friends the garage changed our OT rules, improved productivity and lowered the accident rate. What did we get in return? A record # of suspensions, people working unsafely at the urging of 4 men only concerned with there #s and the lowest amount of OT since the beginning of FIOS. Look in the mirror you FOOLS. I dont know who the Bully is, it could be any # of people. Whether its the TUNA who rats on his best friend, POOKIE the scumbag who swore on the life of his kids ( and lied ), the FOREMAN/STEWARD (since resigned) who did extra work for extra days off and is one of the WEAKEST human beings alive, or worst of all the CAVEMAN RAT who makes up lies about threats , calls security and refuses union representation. The only threat needed is the threat of EXPOSURE. Stand up union brothers and see the light. This company will not stop until all thats left are SUCKBALLS and RATS. Dont think for a second this fight will get easier. Expose the RATS , you cant outrun your GUTLESS reputations. I find it difficult to show sympathy for the 4-men who were let go, when the ones who remain are already bragging about how things are going 2 change. Instead of seeing Verizon as the corporate scum they are and realizing they can change for the better they would rather double up on the coolaid and break balls more. Dont believe the lies, stick together and be strong. As for the rats mentioned above, you know who you are, I will never stop EXPOSING you for the scum that you are. Next time you try to spread the lies and make it personal your names WILL be put onto this blog. Unfortunately for fear of retribution from security I must remain nameless.
Posted by WORK MORE MAKE LESS November 19, 08 08:05 PM

170. I agree 166,this stuff only could come from Saugus High School
Posted by Hang Tough November 19, 08 08:08 PM

171. Every one has a great deal to do with their status in life. I CHOSE a UNION position, not for the protection, but because I saw how the management work with Verizon. In most cases, the 1st level manager is a baby sitter, directed to follow their techs, look over their shoulders, and make sure they are doing their jobs right (like half the managers know the job) The company spends more time trying to find ways to fire or discipline the techs, they forget how to manage and use a little trust. Granted, trust needs to be earned, but most of the time, that’s all it takes. It has been proven that if you allow your technicians to do what needs to be done, it will get done. Schools in session:
1. it’s cheaper to let your techs fix things right the first time, then to have them go out and do it again tomorrow.
2. It is more cost productive to hire English speaking people, in THIS country to take calls from your customers. Does anyone have any idea how many customers have bailed after having to deal with India?
3. Customers ARE NUMBER 1. not profits, but when customers are treated as number one, it WILL reflect in the profits.
4. Hitler died of a sexually transmitted disease. That is called KARMA. Think about it.
I think that’s enough EDUCATION for Verizon and it’s DIRECTORSHIP, I don’t want to overload them with too much all at once.
Posted by its’ just me November 19, 08 08:11 PM

172. The Company needs to be revamped. We need a system that wasn’t designed to do work in the 80’s. On a local level we need management that’s with the times and have at least some brains and know what the job is that they are managing. The workers need to STFU and pay attention to their job and do a QUALITY job rather than listen to other bitches yappin’ their gums. If you have an issue, grieve it or STFU and get back to work. The problem with America is the worker is always comparing themselves to their neighbor. It’s the lazy American that’s killing everything, not JUST Verizon. Where’s the pride? Sure I do great work and never get noticed but get immediately spoken to when I don’t “dot an I” … so I laugh and go about my business because I went outside the small-boxed mind of management to complete a task. Sometimes I do it deliberately just for fun…. but I digress.
The “they can only make you work just hard enough not to get fired” mentality sucks in this day and age of competition. Verizon has a great product that would crush the competition if only the people taking the orders and doing the work took the time to care which won’t happen because their manager is perssuring them to make the number. I really wish the company would stop playing the numbers game and let the workers do their job.
Posted by justanotherVZunionworker November 19, 08 08:18 PM

173. Justanother
With a NUMBERS based business, such as what we see right now with Verizon, most are not afforded the time to do a QUALITY job. When you have managers that are more concerned with closing orders or repairs, instead of, was it fixed right, then we get into the mess we are in now. Closed = $$$, bottom line. Next year, we will be customer oriented, but for now, close the ticket and move on, oh and you have 13 seconds between calls, oh wait next week someone is going to re-invent the POTTY FLAG.
Posted by viscious circle November 19, 08 08:34 PM

174. I remember when nynex use to be a good company to work for. Productivity was never mentioned, and I actually believe people did more and took more pride in their work. 1st levels were allowed to do their jobs and manage their crews, they knew who did their job by what they saw, not by what some fake # told them.
Posted by bb November 19, 08 08:37 PM

175. Post number 171, Hitler committed suicide, shooting himself in the mouth while simultaneously biting into a cyanide capsule.
As far as the subject of downsizing, firings, RIFs etc. go, this is a serious issue affecting many many Managers and their families…those who have gone and those who remain.
Posted by LookToTheCookie November 19, 08 08:51 PM

176. It appears that so much has been distorted as of lately in every company of America. This latest by Verizon (come on all admit it, every management and non management person in Verizon already knows, they have not cared for years about people, ethical responsibilities or any thing near honorable or legal at all), anyway the latest round of termination. It is everyone in this country’s fault. Watch the news, read the papers, everyone loves others dirty laundry, the TV’s cover this information daily and everyone loves it and craves it like an addiction to a drug.
The Management issue at Verizon, well for years this Shit has been going on, they have used the old claim its all labor’s fault, Labor rebuts it as doing what labor was directed to by lower management as their strings were pulled by higher up management strings, so that the executives at Verizon and other corporations made millions.
This move is more likely to cover some big shot, perhaps some whole group or direction, perhaps even Ivan himself for failures, possible legal or other, possible FCC issues or other government investigations, by distraction, confusion or other ways to focus public anger. Perhaps the securities and exchange may need to look at Verizon’s actions. Perhaps the FCC should look into Verizon’s policies and plans.
Likely those fired were not to protect some pee-on people like lower management or non managers here but to protect the Verizon corporation chairmen, presidents, board directors and all the highest members of Verizon with this act. The company will claim a violation of some code of conduct, when it was what their very Directive and others from so high Have Forced the actions already taken for so many years. The board has approved of the results and treatment for years and now is trying to hide something perhaps something big. Does Verizon truly feel it can place Fios into every home and still pay Wall Street its promises? Can they afford to let copper go as appears their corporate direction?
Remember people Like Joe B. and his group are little pathetic Eunich pull toys of the board of directors, and will be treated like a book of matches, take one out, light it when it burns out, Throw it away, corporate security is a similar group that tries to justify their jobs daily also. Everyone is in the same position at that company.
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING VERIZON BY SPREADING FEAR, FIRING MANAGERS (FOR GIVING BOARDMEMBERS THE RESULTS ASKED FOR, SO MANY OF THE PAST YEARS) OFFERING NON MANAGEMENT PACKAGES TO LEAVE AND BASICLY TRYING TO LEAVE NEW ENGLAND OR SELL ANYTHING YOU CAN TO OTHER ‘SET TO FAIL’ CORPORATIONS?
Posted by Mr. Bell November 19, 08 08:57 PM

177. When I was hired as a manager of this business 10 years ago, Who know what the level of deceit, corruption, bureaucracy, nepotism, unfair work practices, I would be subjected to. This experience has been a disheartening one. I wanted to believe in the codes we live by and the six key imperatives (strengthen our culture). Everyday I come to work and hate my job more responsibilities and less resources to manage with. No balance with work and family either you are a slave to verizon or else you will be on the rif list. Its a sad existence praying for the strength to move on.
Posted by everyday is a struggle November 19, 08 09:01 PM

178. Was it a serious issue when the fios techs were laid off, or when the many sst’s were suspended pending investigation (terminated). This atmosphere of us against them, has been created by managements contempt for there workers. This atmosphere affects all of our families not just managements. Only our families have been suffering longer.
Posted by bb November 19, 08 09:03 PM

179. 14 Verizon managers were terminated for falsifying company documents. In related news, manager John Dilegro was given an extra four weeks vacation for doing exactly the same. Aparently he needed the extra time for his uterus to recover after giving birth to an eight pound piece of shit.
Posted by obamapalooza2009 November 19, 08 09:17 PM

180. #166. Those of us who have been around can tell who the real Hang Tough is. Fitzy, It’s great to see that your still HANGING TOUGH, and showing all of us the ways of this corrupt management force. Thanks again…
Posted by Union Member Forever November 19, 08 09:22 PM

181. It is easier (and cheaper) to retain a customer than to get them back after they leave. For this reason alone customer service should have been MGMTs goal while FIOS is being rolled out. But a bonus structure based on bullshit goals and unattainable objectives forces the customer to be the last concern. Whomever is responsible for this situation should be terminated. They put their short term goals above the long term interests of the company and the union, which is a viable company with a good market share. But what do I know,? I am just an overpaid uneducated lazy union slob (who cares about his job and takes pride in his union and the quality if his work.
Posted by 22224eva November 19, 08 09:23 PM

182. Falcon, While your posting was eloquently written I wonder, did you dream of being a doctor, lawyer or engineer? My guess would be an engineer (with Verizon) thus your reference to concession service being installed. Could you be yet another terminated engineer who thinks it’s the union’s fault that management booted you out? You have probably fallen into your position/career due to simple life experiences and opportunities as most people do. Maybe with the training and knowledge you picked up while working for Verizon. I doubt very much your position in life was a plan or a “dream” of yours. Explain why you should question where the technician was for 90 minutes before arriving at your home? Was he in a safety meeting? Was he stocking his truck? Or better yet, was he waiting for his FOREMAN to get his act together and do his job which is to distribute the techs work each day? Maybe the foreman told his reporting techs to go to coffee and give him time to prepare the work he should have prepared the night before. You also have quite an imagination of what a technician does during his day. Verizon technicians are not as free to go about their day as a manager is. Many engineers admit openly to being on a golf course, heading for the cape or watching their children’s games on company time, but I must admit I have never heard one say he had been home for a “nooner”. I wonder, do you think that engineers/managers perhaps visit with ‘friends’ on company time, in company vehicles while not doing company work? (Maybe having a “nooner”) I do. I doubt you have any technician “friends” because you would certainly know that no tech leaves his job at 3:45. They are back in the garage completing their time sheets by that time unless of course they are working ot. I don’t believe you have any respect for union employees and you feel far too superior to associate yourself with us. You would also be a sorry example of a decent manager/engineer. There are competent, intelligent, educated, hard working people at Verizon in both union and management positions. Comments like yours simply prove that even an educated person can have stupid illogical ideas. Verizon is trying to divide its employees and pit us against each other we don’t need any help from jealous ex-employees trying to do the same.
Posted by vzemployee November 19, 08 09:27 PM

183. No surprises at Verizon so long as Joe Bucciarelli and his army keep the company in the stone ages. Trust me when I say that the best product in telecom – FIOS – risks failing in one of the busiest telecom markets on the planet – Boston to Washington DC – because this fool , who lacks intellect and tact , is delusional. He believes that his career, running a copper monopoly, gives him the chops to run a competive service business. In his little mind. his accomplishments are BIG when in truth he’s an immature, uninspring, halfwit who spends more time acting like a tough guy and carrying out vendettas, to cover up the fact that he does not possess an ounce of talent, or business acumen. Nor do his “appointees” whose acheivements are simply that they or their fathers worked for this little liar.
Verizon Mass, is poisoned by nepotism, cronyism and is populated far beyond its ability to overcome by either Joe B’s favors to someone or those who run scared because their jobs are threatened daily. Given the scandal mentioned above by participants and victims, it is absolutely necessary that Basking Ridge do the right thing – get rid of Joe B and his untalented – hanging on just to get a check – cronies who, if they were to go into the real world and try to sell their talents, would fail miserably. Joe B. you are frighteningly unfit to be a leader in this company. The fact that Chris Creager hasn’t called you out is alarming. And while he is at it, he should be looking to snuff out all the rats – complicit as they are – who scurried into little holes as the bombs began to drop….bombs that they knew existed and that you, Joe, along with your unproffessional, ubiquitous F- Bombs, armed. Remember, Joe “not on your watch will this company fail”. I guess you meant that when you condoned passively and agressively the actions of your minions. Chris Creager, please open you eyes.
Posted by In the Know November 19, 08 09:35 PM

184. Again, speaking as an uneducated slob. I see many parallels between our curremt economic crisis and the great depression. Out of the Depression rose a strong union workforce ready to build a strong America. I hope that the American worker sees the opportunity and realizes the great benefit of Organization. Hopefully “the Employee Free Choice Act” is high on President Elect Obama’s list. Thank You to Myles and Fitzy and all the hard working union members who stuck together to get us a contract.
Posted by 22224eva November 19, 08 09:36 PM

185. BRING BACK JACK!!!
Posted by uniblogger2222 November 19, 08 09:38 PM

186. Dere was dis guy from framnhan he was a paper journeyman! Derek you are a bipolar psychotic maniac, look out my kid could kick you ass! Tony how’ s the baby doin? Pay back is a bitch, you three got what you deseved Blow ne
Posted by baby momma November 19, 08 09:53 PM

187. baby momma,
I agree, payback is quite a bitch. Could you kindly explain further the “how’s the baby doin?” comment?? You see, I was unjustly fired in 2006 so I missed these developments. I have waited patiently and I (and many others) are very pleased that this day has come.
Posted by karma’s a bitch November 19, 08 10:04 PM

188. Those who helped security & the Co. were told if they cooperated there would be no repercussions, and these actions are what followed that statement:
Security wanted information on 1 foreman, DC and 1 AOM, TS. They began interviewing people over the summer and it was very long and dragged out as everyone here (lawrence/Chelmsford), were living a Derek reign of terror for he sqealed on his peers on a daily basis to Tony and Tony in turn would be yelling at the other foremen. DC WAS the most unethical manager I have ever dealt with. He suspended, fired and harassed technicians mostly without merit, but condoned by Tony. Most all of over 30 cases have been overturned.
DC was getting paid to be a night manager but worked days. He put in for overtime not worked, took vacation days he did not put in for, golfed while working, took wife to dinner while another foreman worked his call out only DC
put in and got the overtime for that and the other foreman was refused the OT by TS. They both stole company property and the sick part of this is that Derek was ALLOWED to resign! When security came here for him at the beginning
of October he wouldnt come, he resigned instead. Does Tony know that Derek squealed like a pig on Tony? Or that Derek told his peers “I am not
going down for that guy!”
Another quote of Derek’s heard by his peers, “I know how to break the Union, you just start with the most senior guy and work your way down.” Any one remember Gene Murphy??
No one ever asked me anything. Why? They can’t handle the truth!”
To fire 3 innocent managers, and they are innocent, is totally disgusting and without merit. They followed what Tony (and sometines Derek) told them to do and if they didnt, they were either threatened with their jobs or being sent to a distant location.
And finally, my 2 cents regarding Joe B., I have known of him for many many years and when he was 1st level in Cambridge, MA, his nickmane then was “The resident Book Cooker”. Nothing has changed with him except he has reaped monetary rewards and made a dictator for being a cheat. In case you never met him or heard him speak, he has no class at all and talks just like Jethro Bowdine of the Beverly Hillbillies, but in Joe’s case he’s got to throw in the 4 letter words so you will listen!
Anyone who is trying to help the innocents of this witch hunt is being told by HR that it is over and to let it lie. WE CAN’T DO THAT, WE HAVE A CONSCIENCE!”
SpongeBob-No Pants
Posted by SpongeBob-No Pants November 19, 08 10:06 PM

189. Shoulda Gone Union,—You sly guy……
Boy oh boy…..you’ve got the WHOLE story huh? Is it because you started this whole thing?–your letter writing skills must be SO eloquent to have caught the right guy’s attention. You LOVE this anonymous status huh? Sad that your selfishness took down so many. Just couldn’t help yourself? Why don’t you tell everyone here how much YOU made last year….your “brothers” may be interested….I know I am. Must be nice to get the benies of both union & management. You gonna miss that? Why don’t you get your facts straight on the story before you start spouting? Oh, damn, just go write another letter….that seems to work for you.
To all the rest of you……why don’t you stop all of this nonsense and take into consideration that as Fitzy said….there are families involved here and people trying to move on. And if you weren’t a part of this- you REALLY don’t know the whole story, so keep your rumors and half-truths to yourself.
P.S.- Nice that you can all post everyone’s names all over the place yet, when it comes to your own you don’t …..why is that?
Posted by I know who YOU are…. November 19, 08 10:20 PM

190. it’s encouraging to think that justice may finally raising it’s sword.my father taught me that the truth will always prevail,though at times it may seem like it never will.having faith builds character.the people running this region are bums,simply bad folks.they are corrupt and have caused immense damage.they have to go.
Posted by vz man November 19, 08 11:04 PM

191. As a union employee you need to approach every day like it is your last day. Keep accurate records of what you do. If you drive to the end of the block have a reason for it because all upper management cares about is body count. You are on the chopping block too. These people will be eating their own and are willing to sacrifice you to keep their little tyrant bosses happy. Support your stewards and the union. Stick together and hopefully we will outlast these transient scumbags. I don’t wish being terminated on anyone. I hope everyone has a nice holiday. I know what I am thankful for. Thank you IBEW 2222
Posted by 22224eva November 19, 08 11:10 PM

192. What a pack of NITWITS! These 14 managers should have realized that what they were involved in was nothing but a huge lie. Please why should anyone have sympathy for management who lies to their workers and thier bosses. You really had no idea that you were falsifying your numbers? Don’t give me this crap that you were doing what you were told! It’s hypocracy! You bash the union and once again take no responsibility for your actions. Actions which forced you to harass your workers and create an unhealthy work enviroment.
As Fitzy would say,
“LIFE IS HARD AND ITS HARDER WHEN YOUR STUPID!”
Posted by Thankfullformyunionjob November 19, 08 11:19 PM

193. What about the inside offices that falsifies the orders and completes them in order to make their metrics, and then reopens them after they have been pulled to finish the jobs! Then the strut around as they are wonderful for meeting their metrics. Business Code of Conduct, what about the manager and the supervisor that works for him having a personal initimate relationship, isn’t that a no no also? Many good knowledgable managers that don’t lie, cheat or steal got Rif”d, while others who deserve to go, have their cake and eat it too. So the managers that got fired for doing what they were told, were doomed either way, between a rock and a hard place. Do it and get caught, or don’t do it and catch the wrath from those telling they to do it. Much favoritism when it comes to the Rif. Doesn’t pay to be lower management, you get your ass kicked.
Posted by Sherry November 19, 08 11:33 PM

194. From HR in a non-union company, I can’t speak to everything that is going on, however I can make an observation about employees – union, non-union, management, non-management – there are good and bad. Those who mean well and try to do their best (although everyone may not agree with their methods) and those out for themselves, trying to milk the system and get the most they can for themselves (aka greed).
I don’t understand how people can be so clear cut – all union members are bad, or all of management is bad, and those fired got what they deserved. I think there are a lot of people weighing in who don’t have all of the facts, or are incapable at looking at things objectively. Those people posting here are doing a disservice to those affected who are trying to have a debate/discussion about recent events.
If you can’t be objective, keep your biased opinions to yourselves. Your adding inaccurate, ignorant opinions and information. Sounds like this is not a good situation for anyone – like it or not. Both those terminated, and possibly some left behind. Tis the season for compassion, understanding and peace. Think beyond the manager and union member and think of the person. What if they were your brother/ sister, son/daughter, mother/father., husband/wife? Look at it from the other guys point of view. Let’s hope most people are trying to do the best they can and put in an honest days work and give people a chance to explain.
From what I’m reading there were some folks who didn’t deserve to be terminated (and I know of at least one). It doesn’t sound like Verizon gave people a chance to explain. And from all I’m reading Verizon sounds like it has it’s share of very significant problems. Not someplace I would ever want to work – union or management, employed or recently terminated. Comcast must be flooded with applications.
Posted by Outside Looking In November 20, 08 12:03 AM

195. reading this blog is kinda like sitting in a verizon bathroom and reading all the crap written all over the walls
Posted by retiring soon November 20, 08 12:11 AM

196. Boys and Girls, that is enough. I have a list of stuff we need to go over before we put this to bed. These folks got fired for, from what I can understand, a code of business conduct violation(s). Do we really know the magnitude of what each individual participated in these violations………..some may, but most do not and are using this as a sounding board to , well, vent about nothing meaningful. The fact is, they did some sort of misleading to pad their numbers, or did what their bosses told them, and did not have the guts, or even, maybe, the know-how, to approach security when they felt uncomfortable in doing what they were told.They should have questioned it and they didn’t. Will they get their jobs back after, if they decide to, file a lawsuit, maybe, but why would they want to come back here to work? Secondly, no one side is better than the other, the union members have a point, they do good work, a majority of them do daily,but there are a few that come along for the ride and it is their attitudes that paint a picture of all union memebers. The union is only a respectable as their laziest member from a whole. I personally know a great deal of Verizon union employees and they are the salt of the earth. They live for Verizon and perform outstanding work day to day. These are the ones that make a difference and make it easier for those who just show up and say ,”I hate this job ” or “I can’t wait to leave here in a few years” However, when you run into an old friend at a party or out drinking, you tell them that this is the best job you’ve ever had. So be it,… Whatever, you make alot of money and you do not really have an impact on anyone’s life if you go the extra mile for the customer. I also know alot of Management personel. And the ones I know bring something special to the table, and i recognize they are only here for a short time as they WILL move up the corporate ladder. They have field experience, they know how to manage their peers, they know how to get the techs to work for the customers, because they used to be in the field, not as many anymore, but there are a few that can hold their own. Will they be first levels forever?, Probably not,but in due time someone will recognize their talents to and they will either move up, or get snatched up by another company.
So let’s agree on one thing, both sides need each other. We are products of our own enviornments, and this enviornment stinks. The culture is terrible and has to stop. Management needs to rebound from this “event” and the Union has to do their part to be more efficient. Yes, I know it is a lot to ask and some may say, I am dreaming. I could be, but the fact remains, the economy is terrible. We have to creat our own self-worth.Whether it be in the form of Sell One More, or creating work for ourselves, not work that should have been done right the first time, but we have to roll again,but, and think about it. If we did the job correctly, the first time around, and really gave the customer what they deserved. They would, in turn, tell everyone they know that is was worth it. Guys, make it worth it. Make that encounter really mean something. We are NOT a phone company anymore. This is NOT the same company that would take care of you for your entire lives. This is striclty one thing………and it is called, BUSINESS. Do your jobs well, be proud of what you do, make a difference every single day. You do not have to fly the corporate flag,but you do have a fiscal responsibility to be accurate in your time reporting, and if you feel uncomfortable and feel you are being forced into something you question, go to your boss. If they do not listen,go to their boss, and do not stop until you feel satisfied in the answer you receive. Finally, take care of YOUR customer, do not leave them for someone else to fix two days later. It is your reputation, amongst your peers, that contributes to this culture. Both, good and bad. The contract you received is solid for this economy. Recognize, understand how to keep it together for the next three years. WE need each other to survive through this mess and lets rebuild together. Just remember, the job you save will be your own, and that goes for both sides. Yes, you can still “Hang Tough” and ” Be the Network” all in one. Lets move forward, The holidays are coming and it is time to be thankfull for what we have and for those who are not with us anymore.With that, good night and be safe!
. Whcihwill be Verizo’sloss, asthey do not hire, From a field perspective, let’s start with

safety. Safety is the responsiblity of one person, the tech him/herself. You cannot blame anyone for not acting safe. Next, productivity. Productivity comes
Posted by Having my Jerry McGuire Moment November 20, 08 12:26 AM

197. Jim Gustafson and Bill Dastis are names that should be looked into also – these numbers games are all table stakes.
Posted by Dr. Clarence Carter November 20, 08 02:57 AM

198. Wow post 169 looks like a nerve was hit.You mention 4 rats but you didnt hit the right rat on the head,try none of the above.Terrorist need exposure.Your day will come.
Posted by B November 20, 08 04:49 AM

199. A lawsuit, are you kidding me? When I started for nynex, managers went to bat for you when questioned by anyone. Truly HUMAN beings that realize that things happen, bad days, mistakes, and other judgement errors that nobody got hurt doing. Then we came into this 5 year technician who wanted names for themselves to be hired as first level managers. You people didn’t know the job, Don’t know the job, and refuse to get off your pedestal. These idiots chose not to call that foolish department we call security. You would think we were national defense company with the video cameras, jumping in bushes, and constantly spying on people. I have personally watched all this take place so I know the truth. I was Fired, yes fired because of allegations that didn’t ever amount to anything. These allegations started from a union brother and were not only false and misleading, but were started to get that union brother out of his own jam with the company and the law. When security couldn’t get me on those allegations, They fired me for taking a 20 minute break at the wrong time of day. 10 months I sat on the outside, when all along one of these splineless jobless managers could have backed me up. I get back on Final final and work for the splineless puke that fired me. Talk about a conflict of interest. My wife was in labor and I couldn’t leave the garage even though my work was done the day. These people that got fired aren’t innocent, they pick and chose there friends just like you or I even though they are supposed to be proifessional. Their reign of terror is over justly. If they were not pawns in a game of chess, and HUMAN BEINGS this would have never, never happened. As far as the people that were shipped all over the state after cooperating, They have a class action law suit because they aren’t going to have jobs for long.This hasn’t ended by any means and I hope you find it as terrible as I did to be fired from a company that you thought was on your side. I will be on the other side of the table in any class action law suit that ensues you bunch of idiots.
PS good luck to the managers that told security what they wanted, and shame on you bunch of hypocrites that sent them done the river anyway.

Posted by Class Action HA HA HA HA HA HA HA November 20, 08 05:56 AM

200. I am a street wise punk from Worcester with an MBA.What you really are is a bald headed dick .If it wasnt for Verizon your job would be can i super size that for you.When eric leaves your done.
Posted by just waiting November 20, 08 06:35 AM

201. These dopes are gone But Verizon continuse to lie to customers! A Lie is a lie is a Lie! Customers attempting to report a trouble are being told Verizon doesn’t work on weekends! Thats odd, Where I work 50% of the employees are D.U. every week. Isn’t it a code of conduct violation to lie to customers? Why are the union Brothes and Sisters in centralized repair allowed to lie? It is bad for bussiness and we the technicians are the ones who bear the wrath of the angy customers . you are not helping anyone by lieing to the costomers to help your manager cook the books
Posted by Da man from Faminhan November 20, 08 07:22 AM

202. These dopes are gone But Verizon continuse to lie to customers! A Lie is a lie is a Lie! Customers attempting to report a trouble are being told Verizon doesn’t work on weekends! Thats odd, Where I work 50% of the employees are D.U. every week. Isn’t it a code of conduct violation to lie to customers? Why are the union Brothes and Sisters in centralized repair allowed to lie? It is bad for bussiness and we the technicians are the ones who bear the wrath of the angy customers . you are not helping anyone by lieing to the costomers to help your manager cook the books
Posted by Da man from Faminhan November 20, 08 07:26 AM

203. As a former manager I can tell you in operations we made up our own tickets to make productivity. These DW deferred work tickets could be made into trouble or install tickets to improve numbers. I believe my old group Wholesale Services created these and then they were implemented in other departments.
These false numbers are given to the fcc to show how we treat our customers. What a joke. That is how wall street rates verizon on their made up information. In 2006 November and December I clearly remember a few managers in western mass building 6 to 8 DW tickets daily to make their year end numbers but this was never noticed, how???
IF all departments were scrutinized I don’t think any employees would be left.
I am glad I am not there anymore. I feel bad for those left behind.
Posted by been there done that November 20, 08 08:04 AM

204. Thought for the Day: REMEMBER YOU ARE A UNION MEMBER! Do NOTHING but a quality job. We’re Proven, We’re Union!
Posted by Hang Tough November 20, 08 08:07 AM

205. In addition to all these terminations, a whole bunch of Managers are also being RIF’d. Does anybody have names?
Thanks
Posted by Gone but not forgotten November 20, 08 08:08 AM

206. Malerba! Malerba! Malerba! Malerba! Malerba! Malerba! Malerba! Malerba!
BRING MALERBA BACK!!!!
BRING MALERBA BACK!!!!
BRING MALERBA BACK!!!!
Posted by Paul Diamantopoulos (first level rat) November 20, 08 08:32 AM

207. Kids…Kids…..Can’t we all get along
Posted by Ma Bell November 20, 08 08:33 AM

208. Boston,Framingham,Braintree,Framingham,Brockton…..the leaks( ratting), fingerpointing & reports on activities are coming from the contractrors. Former & Present…..they have the old ties back to Bucc
Posted by insight November 20, 08 08:47 AM

209. To Gone but not Forgotten….
The managers that are being RIFD have already been notified, and I am sure you wouldnt wont your name posted on a Boston Globe reply blog, so out of respect for them, I am HOPING that noone will reveal these names over the internet…
Posted by respectful employee November 20, 08 09:21 AM

210. I hope it’s a warning to all those first levels who stepped on their former UNION Member peers to get their gig; YOU ARE JUST A NUMBER, THE COMPANY DOESN’T CARE FOR YOU OR EVEN LIKE YOU! And now you have no representation against the company. So, If you were a former member who took that first level job, good luck, because like the Company, We don’t care for you or like you; SO LONG SB’s!!! I would sign my name, but I don’t need a 30 day unpaid vacation….
Posted by adam m November 20, 08 09:25 AM

211. All logic, and fact, will continue to fall on deaf ears, while the lies, and corruption continue to dominate this culture as long as the compensation of corparate officers resemble those of rock stars. To quote Upton Sinclair,” It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salery depends on his not understanding it.”. Joe B. and his ilk exsist ,because the culture of fiction is most expiditiously achieved through the most exploitable of human emotion, fear. There are no shortages of Joe B’s and supporting cast members out there willing to carry on this act. “Playing the game” as it was know in the previous generation, has become a live fire exercise, because the risk of exposure has become so great, it has become necessary to produce a body count be put on display for investors consumption of the viseral proof of their toughness and commitment to the future of this company remain unquestioned, in order to justify the executive compensation. In the final analysis, akin to any conflict the price is paid by the Captains and Lietenants, NCO’s and Privates, while the conduct of those who prosecuted the effort, will profit in exile, Meanwhile, the combatants and investors will once again stand by as outsiders looking in disbelief as it happens again for the first time.
Posted by focus59 November 20, 08 10:15 AM

212. It is ignorant to stereotype all of the Verizon union employees.
My wife works for Verizon and works very hard at her job.
I know all the co-workers in her department do the same.
While all companies carry some “dead-wood”, it is unfair to stereotype
all those involved.
Posted by Shannon November 20, 08 10:27 AM

213. I hope the company keeps this up they only caught 14 in the boston area and i know of a few more in the burbs that are fudging thier fios numbers. It makes me sad the we are building and installing the best product on the market and people from joe the butcher all the way to first level managers on core and fios are cheating lieing and stealing to make this fly. it’s bullsh** the product speaks for it’s self it’s to bad management is f***ing it up as usuall. I’m just waiting for the fios side to be fired next.
Posted by waitimg for more November 20, 08 10:28 AM

214. J.D will smash his computer in a roid rage fit if he gets caught changing his crews time sheet, just like he did his gps unit when he was a tech.
Posted by Juiceman November 20, 08 10:33 AM

215. I HATE VERIZON AND MY BOSSES!!! BABBIO, GOMES, JOE THE BUTCHER!!!! I HATE YOU ALL!!!!!! I WISH YOU WOULD JUST RIF ME!!! WHY DON’T YOU JUST FIRE ME? I SUCK AS A MANAGER!!! I HATE MY JOB!!!
Posted by Paul Diamantopoulos (first level dracut) November 20, 08 10:35 AM

216. Just got word that he only weighs 150lbs now. Its been awhile J.D we need your buisness again….call me
Posted by Juiceman November 20, 08 10:37 AM

217. I AM ALSO BALDING!!!
Posted by Paul Diamantopoulos (first level dracut) November 20, 08 10:38 AM

218. That was in the past Dilegro regrets driving to Rhode Island in his verizon van to pick up his motorcycle, Hanging at the gym when Toce suspended him and taking the breakdown to his Gps. That was in the past leave the guy alone he wants everyone to forget his indescretions as a tech!!!!
Posted by Johny5 November 20, 08 10:40 AM

219. I WONDER IF MY WIFE AND KIDS KNOW I’M A RAT? WOULD THEY BE PROUD THAT I PUT A GUY WITH A WIFE AND KIDS OUT ON THE STREET?
Posted by Paul Diamantopoulos (first level dracut) November 20, 08 10:41 AM

220. Type your comment here..
Posted by RIF’d in October November 20, 08 10:44 AM

221. I WONDER IF THE SAYING “WHAT GOES AROUND WILL COME AROUND” WILL APPLY TO ME?
Posted by Paul Diamantopoulos (first level dracut) November 20, 08 10:49 AM

222. To all of the Verizon engineers reading these blogs: If you think you’re safe because you escaped the last RIF, think again! If Mike Donovan gets his way, and he will, you will all be replaced by contractors. And to all of those “special people” in Dracut, your next! Father Bill can’t protect you forever.
Now, I am no fan of the union, but it appears it is the only way to save your jobs. All of you engineers should unionize and foil Mike Donovan’s plan.
It’s your call; it’s your future.
Unfortunately, it’s too late for me.
RIt’s your call; It’s your future!
Posted by Too late November 20, 08 10:55 AM

223. What amazes me is that Buccierelli has survived. He seems to have some layer of protection that has he worn well over the years. Evidently the Code of Business Conduct doesn’t apply to him. The buck always stops before it gets to him. From his AOM days in Cambridge where his maintenance center was caught building ficticious reports (he got promoted). To his Director days in in Woburn where 3 of his management team were fired for closing out incomplete plant tickets. Just a couple of examples (I’m sure there are more) of how the little man’s kevlar works for him. Other people lose their jobs over similar offences yet he is like the pink bunny, just bangin’ his empty drum wherever he goes. Wake up Verizon. Take the blinders off.
Posted by ready to rif November 20, 08 11:01 AM

224. I WONDER WHERE I CAN GO TO THE GYM IN DRACUT? ON COMPANY TIME OF COURSE. I HOPE NOBODY RATS ME OUT TO SECURITY LIKE I RATTED OUT MALERBA!!!!
Posted by Paul Diamantopoulos (first level dracut) November 20, 08 11:02 AM

225. I AM MR. PERFECT! THAT WHAT’S THE OTHER MANAGERS USED TO CALL ME IN WOBURN. I DON’T THINK THEY REALLY LIKE ME EITHER! WHY DOESN’T ANYONE LIKE ME?
Posted by Paul Diamantopoulos (first level dracut) November 20, 08 11:07 AM

226. Follow Dilegro in his wifes X3 to the gym when he finaly gets caught up to!
Posted by Johhny5 November 20, 08 11:08 AM

227. Who is taller, Goza or Booch???
Posted by Tall in Arsenal November 20, 08 11:12 AM

228. If WILD BILL of 2321 was in charge then there would be no fraud because EVERYONE would work to the MAX due to their overwhelming respect and fear of the hammer of WILD BILL. Also Fios would be installed in all of Massachusetts and everyone would have triple plays due to his Awesomeness! Even Barack Obama wishes he was WILD BILL!!! He is a Magnificent Bastard. His picture should be on every Dollar Bill, regardless of denomibation, In the US!!!
Posted by WILD BILL IN 2012 November 20, 08 11:19 AM

229. Too late
Great post! I couldn’t have said it better.
All of you Verizon engineers, your jobs are in jeopardy. Don’t be intimodated by the likes of Mike Donovan. Take a stand. At least listen to what the union has to say.
Good luck!
Posted by Way too late November 20, 08 11:20 AM

230. Joe B. represents the cancer that infects us, cloaked in the correct DNA to avoid detection from the anti- Joe B’s he will continue to feed on the vital organs that sustain our health, and i’m afraid there is not much conviction from the rock stars to go see a doctor because the show must go on.
Posted by focus59 November 20, 08 11:59 AM

231. in response to 227 Goza is taller bya hair,oh wait forget it.
Posted by I read or sleep on my mandatory hour unpaid lunch so blowme November 20, 08 12:00 PM

232. Local 103 crossed your lines every time you guys went on strike. Do you still support those rats???
Posted by Scab November 20, 08 12:07 PM

233. The real truth is there is no parity in the way union and management people are treated. That is compliments of Ivan and Denny Strigl. They are both so terrified of the union that they have decided to try and RIF their way to profit. Thanks to these two bozo’s, it is open season on middle management. Hard to believe any manager would fudge numbers in this management hostile environment. Not too smart!
Posted by Marilyn November 20, 08 12:25 PM

234. goza & bucch separated @ birth, both spineless.
Posted by copper crew November 20, 08 12:26 PM

235. When I started at Bell Atlantic 10 years ago I was so excited. After 10 years of working in the field I can’t honestly say that me or the guys I work with actually enjoy their jobs anymore. We used to have foreman that actually knew what we were dealing with in the field. We can’t even get tools anymore. It’s the most frustrating feeling trying to do your job with old beat up trucks and tools. It made me stop even trying to get anything done. Management has killed the morale of this company. Everyday is a battle between management and the union. It’s too bad because it was once a great place to work.
Posted by A sucker for the money and benefits November 20, 08 12:31 PM

236. I have to confess…..I love the Yankees!!

Posted by Union Forever November 20, 08 12:34 PM

237. So now the resident SCUMBAG decides to post as me ( a lifelong Red Sox Fan). GO AWAY YOU LOWLIFE! You are trivializing the firing of people and the years of Verizon Harassment with your BS. Take your Childish ways to MYSPACE or another infantile forum. DIRTBAG
Posted by Union Forever November 20, 08 12:43 PM

238. Marilyn, the two rock stars treat you like a roadie because they can, if your waiting for thier love of humanity to change you too will fall. Consider a union, under card check you may be able to rally enough support to prevail. Unions for all their faults are the life jackets you need but hope you never have to use, because you can’t tread water forever…..good luck
Posted by focus59 November 20, 08 12:49 PM

239. There is only enough room for one Malden Superstar in this Company. Freni will rat out Dilegro till he becomes number one.
Posted by WoburnAlwaysWins November 20, 08 12:53 PM

240. Local 103 reports EI to the state for doing electrical work without a license and you tools still want to use them….
Posted by scab November 20, 08 12:53 PM

241. Type your comment here…
Posted by part of the lawsuit November 20, 08 01:10 PM
242. Hey Chris S., does the order of operation still go God, Country, Tony S.(rat), then Me?
Posted by spongbob November 20, 08 02:05 PM

243. In reference to #166, I can’t agree more. In my 20+ in this company, I have never come across a man I respect more than Eddie Fitz. That guy’s done more for people (not just union members, either) than anyone I know. Eddie Fitz, I’m proud to know you.
Posted by A Manager Who’ll Probably Be Fired Too Soon November 20, 08 02:18 PM

244. Maybe if Dilegro puts enough breakdowns together he can fry the company mainframe and ruin the evidence of his timesheet falsification. Think of it as a Giant GPS unit!
Posted by happyfiostech November 20, 08 02:31 PM

245. The pineapple under the sea has been vacant for about a month now.
I hear that SpongeBob is now trying to open a new Chum-bucket on Merrimack Street in Lowell. SpongeBob, let me know how that works out for ya.

Don’t be surprised if you have problems with the city. We know them, too.
Posted by Gino Torretta November 20, 08 02:35 PM

246. Just came back from a meeting with the BOOCH…….he doesn’t give a “rats Ass”, about these blogs. He claims they are a bunch of bullshit if people can’t even sign their names. How would he know that names are not signed here unless he looked?
Posted by New England Telephone-we are the one for you! November 20, 08 02:36 PM

247. Thats what whitey bulger used to say…..duhhh..they don’t sign their names because they’re too scared of retirbution…be found in a dumpster( or get fired)…get it… they feel there first amendment right will be stepped on by some who is being protected by telling lies or ratting out everyone else… not a good eviornment for honest people to live in or work in.
Posted by southie November 20, 08 02:45 PM

248. Hey Tony, F*ck me? Nah, f*ck you.
This is all because of you, you little scumbag. Lord Farquaff led everyone down a bad road and now they’re all fired. Instead of ruining one life at a time, you ruined 14 (SpongeBob had it coming all on his own) at once. Congratulations! You painted your masterpiece.
Posted by You know who I am, you scumbag November 20, 08 02:52 PM

249. Of course freni will rat. And it wouldnt be the 1st time.As a VERY low level hoodlum growing up in wonderful malden, he becamed skilled in that. How often does one get arrested for selling the cocaine and not do a lick of jail time. tweet tweet. Hey can i get the line on the pats this week anthony.. Oh yeah guys i forgot he was a bookie too.. Coke and bookin. Got to love these 1st level managers. By the way. Your coke always sucked and your line were always inflated.
Posted by Disgruntled former customer November 20, 08 03:08 PM

250. just me, You are an idiot, Hitler killed himself he didnt die of an STD
Posted by Mr Pickles November 20, 08 03:09 PM

251. Attention Verizon middle and front line managers:
Train, educate, equip and communicate with- your workers. Protect them when they make the small mistakes. Reward them when they do well. Treat them with compassion and respect and you will harvest the fruit of their labor. Discipline and manage the morons (your own people will tell you who they are) … It is really that simple.
Attention Verizon Executives:
Do not create a huge gap and disparity in benefits between your front line managers and their subordinates. If the workers have a pension, their manager should have the same. This goes with every single benefit. If not, you will attract sub-par talent to manage your greatest asset, and their true potential will never be revealed. Cut expenses in other ways, like YOUR stock options and bonuses
Attention Verizon Union members and front line employees:
Verizon was a dying business until they adopted a fiber to the premise philosophy. This philosophy saved your jobs; not collective bargaining or slowing down production, but the decision of Verizon executives. Do not bite the hand that feeds you. Do a great job, treat every customer like they pay you directly, because you are paid handsomely and have better benefits than most. You are not entitled to these benefits and wages, YOU HAVE TO EARN THEM. Slowing down production does not save jobs in this age. It drives up expenses and steals from profits. Less profit = less capital to reinvest in creating more infrastructure and JOBS.
-signed a concerned shareholder (ready to sell) and customer
Posted by sellin my shares November 20, 08 03:46 PM

http://www.boston.com/business/ticker/2008/11/14_verizon_mana.html